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(This post was last modified: 01-17-2019, 09:50 PM by EFDan.)
(01-17-2019, 08:31 PM)Freddy Wrote:
(01-17-2019, 06:47 PM)churchilllafemme Wrote: I understand the controversy and the strong feelings for and against this advertising, but to me it is just that: advertising, an attempt to manipulate my response to the Gillette brand in order to get my money.  It is no more or less offensive to me than any other such attempt.  However, I find quite laughable the notion that anyone at Gillette is demonstrating strong moral fiber or social responsibility or has any admirable motive.

John, while I would like to think that there are at least a few morally upright and socially responsible higher ups at a company as large as P&G/Gillette, I completely agree with you about the advertising.  It all does, indeed, come down to the bottom line.  It has been said that even bad publicity is good publicity so I see this ad as a real winner for Gillette no matter what we as individuals think.

I don't see this as anything different from what Nike did earlier last year. They are just aiming this at a certain segment of the population. I would bet they KNEW this would stir controversy and get people talking about their brand. This six page thread is proof of that. Mission Accomplished. Suckers Tongue
#52

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Southern Ohio
(01-17-2019, 09:49 PM)EFDan Wrote: I don't see this as anything different from what Nike did earlier last year.  They are just aiming this at a certain segment of the population.  I would bet they KNEW this would stir controversy and get people talking about their brand.  This six page thread is proof of that.  Mission Accomplished.  Suckers Tongue


We are talking about it and there is nothing wrong with healthy debate however, I don't see myself running out and paying a fortune for a 17 blade razor with magic gu on a strip because they don't like men.

P&G is based out of this area and they are a odd company - go overboard to support some causes and then leaving you shaking your head on why they deem Honor Flight to controversial to support. The friends I have that employed there describe a really odd place to work.

It doesn't surprise me though that P&G would do this - but it didn't play well locally.

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#53
(01-17-2019, 10:17 PM)Cincinnatus Wrote:
(01-17-2019, 09:49 PM)EFDan Wrote: I don't see this as anything different from what Nike did earlier last year.  They are just aiming this at a certain segment of the population.  I would bet they KNEW this would stir controversy and get people talking about their brand.  This six page thread is proof of that.  Mission Accomplished.  Suckers Tongue


We are talking about it and there is nothing wrong with healthy debate however, I don't see myself running out and paying a fortune for a 17 blade razor with magic gu on a strip because they don't like men.

P&G is based out of this area and they are a odd company - go overboard to support some causes and then leaving you shaking your head on why they deem Honor Flight to controversial to support.  The friends I have that employed there describe a really odd place to work.

It doesn't surprise me though that P&G would do this - but it didn't play well locally.

Oh there are two sides to the coin for sure. Only the future will tell if it hurts their bottom line.
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(This post was last modified: 01-17-2019, 11:31 PM by EFDan.)
One part of the ad struck me as odd though. At about the one minute mark the guy sees a good lookin lady walk by and he goes to approach her and he is cut off by an African American that says, "Not cool." What? If you see a good lookin lady you aren't allowed to approach her? Sorry, but that exact scenario is how I met my wife. We are still married to this day. The guy goes forward as if to he was going to say something like, "Hey," or whatever. It wasn't like he was catcalling her and whistling.

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#55
I could see if he approached her, she wanted no part of it and keep walking, and then he still kept bothering her, but that isn't what I saw.

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#56
(This post was last modified: 01-17-2019, 11:49 PM by bkatbamna.)
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Is it toxic masculinity if I look at the logos?

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#57
The opposition to this ad is baffling to me. I’m guessing those that are outraged are largely folks threatened by change.

I have a daughter - I don’t want her to grow up in a world where she is objectified and allowed to suffer at the hands of anyone

I have a son - I want him to be a part of the solution in this world. To treat each and every person with respect and dignity.

The best a man can get - seems like a good goal. It’s a commercial. They’re trying to speak to an audience and sell stuff. If it doesn’t speak to you, or your threatened by the message, then don’t purchase their products. Meanwhile I’ll put on my nikes and buy my silver blues with pride.

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#58
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...39189.html


I think this quote from the article sums it up entirely:


Quote:...The backlash against that ad apparently didn't faze Protest & Grumble's activist zealots. Once again, industry marketers are proving they're not satisfied with selling useful products people want and need. No, they're hell-bent on exploiting successful businesses to cram odious politics down consumers' throats...

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Secretary Ramsey put his foot into it yesterday . . . in the course of his remarks he said that California “needs water and better society.”  “So does h-ll,” yelled someone in the crowd.  
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(01-18-2019, 02:59 AM)BPman Wrote: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...39189.html


I think this quote from the article sums it up entirely:


Quote:...The backlash against that ad apparently didn't faze Protest & Grumble's activist zealots. Once again, industry marketers are proving they're not satisfied with selling useful products people want and need. No, they're hell-bent on exploiting successful businesses to cram odious politics down consumers' throats...

Not new though.....

https://qz.com/1400583/modern-corporate-...ernick-ad/
#60

Member
Seattle
(01-18-2019, 02:59 AM)BPman Wrote: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...39189.html


I think this quote from the article sums it up entirely:


Quote:...The backlash against that ad apparently didn't faze Protest & Grumble's activist zealots. Once again, industry marketers are proving they're not satisfied with selling useful products people want and need. No, they're hell-bent on exploiting successful businesses to cram odious politics down consumers' throats...

What is odious to one is glorious to another. The Veg is a perfect case in point...
--Scott


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