"BEGINNER RAZORS" vs "Razors Suited for Beginners"

May I suggest to all to use better terminology to better define the topics?

Entry level razor----means more cost effective for the new recruits.
High end razors----means more expensive razor for the person with means to spend (frivolously I might add
Mild and aggressive razors----can apply to both entry level and high end razors.

Like Lipripper660 I think "beginner razors" are a misnomer because any first razor handed to a person is in fact the beginning of that person's shaving habits. Makes no difference the name stamped in it.

I know this is only parsing words, but I believe correct terminology matters.

I am a relatively new to traditional shaving (2.5 years). I have found that as my technique improved, I wanted to try higher settings on my adjustables. I also wanted to try mid aggressive razors. I had a few razors which I had given up on after a few shaves (early in my shaving journey). I have recently tried them, and found that I liked the lack of buffing required and the efficiency those razors provided. It was my experience level and improved shaving technique that made those tools perform for me. I think that most people will improve their shaving abilities over time (repittition is the mother of all skills), and want to upgrade from their first razor. No one wears the same clothes all of their adult lives, and very few eat the same thing every day. It is human nature to want something different over time. Improved "shaving skills" are a catalyst for wanting a new razor and a new "shaving experience". Most of the people on this forum who enjoy razors like the Muhle R41 and other aggressive razors, have been shaving for many years, and have the shaving skills to really enjoy them. I have not reached the level of proficiency to move past mid aggressive. IMHO, the bottom line is that most people will change razors as their skills improve.

I don't really agree with the whole 'beginner razor' mantra...I suggest people try from the very mild to the very aggressive and then work from there....so like a gillette tech, razorock mamba or feather as-d2 (all are mild IMHO) to the ikon tech, blackland blackbird or muhle r41 (all are aggressive IMHO.

I spent a lot of time & money playing around with mild razors only to find that the most aggressive razors shaved me better with much less effort and time.  the repeated thoughts in the wet shaving world is that those who have sensitive skin or are prone to irritations & weepers should steer way, way clear from aggressive razors.

My exact sentiments. I actually quit wet shaving and went back to carts because I tried all of the highly recommended razors for beginners and they shaved me terribly. I figured it must have been me since everyone said they were the way to go. I’m glad I tried again later on with a much more aggressive and efficient setup that the lightbulb went off.

I don't really agree with the whole 'beginner razor' mantra...I suggest people try from the very mild to the very aggressive and then work from there....so like a gillette tech, razorock mamba or feather as-d2 (all are mild IMHO) to the ikon tech, blackland blackbird or muhle r41 (all are aggressive IMHO.

I spent a lot of time & money playing around with mild razors only to find that the most aggressive razors shaved me better with much less effort and time.  the repeated thoughts in the wet shaving world is that those who have sensitive skin or are prone to irritations & weepers should steer way, way clear from aggressive razors.

really? I see just as many recommend aggressive razors for sensitive skin.  I tell people to go mild for their first razor because it is forgiving and aggressive for their 2nd razor because it forces them to iron out their technique. From there, you can get good results with most razors and hone in on what plays to your personal preferences.

I don't really agree with the whole 'beginner razor' mantra...I suggest people try from the very mild to the very aggressive and then work from there....so like a gillette tech, razorock mamba or feather as-d2 (all are mild IMHO) to the ikon tech, blackland blackbird or muhle r41 (all are aggressive IMHO.

I spent a lot of time & money playing around with mild razors only to find that the most aggressive razors shaved me better with much less effort and time.  the repeated thoughts in the wet shaving world is that those who have sensitive skin or are prone to irritations & weepers should steer way, way clear from aggressive razors.

My exact sentiments. I actually quit wet shaving and went back to carts because I tried all of the highly recommended razors for beginners and they shaved me terribly. I figured it must have been me since everyone said they were the way to go. I’m glad I tried again later on with a much more aggressive and efficient setup that the lightbulb went off.

I ended up starting to grow a beard because shaving was such a chore for me. luckily I don't work in an environment where clean, daily shaves are required.

I don't really agree with the whole 'beginner razor' mantra...I suggest people try from the very mild to the very aggressive and then work from there....so like a gillette tech, razorock mamba or feather as-d2 (all are mild IMHO) to the ikon tech, blackland blackbird or muhle r41 (all are aggressive IMHO.

I spent a lot of time & money playing around with mild razors only to find that the most aggressive razors shaved me better with much less effort and time.  the repeated thoughts in the wet shaving world is that those who have sensitive skin or are prone to irritations & weepers should steer way, way clear from aggressive razors.

really? I see just as many recommend aggressive razors for sensitive skin.  I tell people to go mild for their first razor because it is forgiving and aggressive for their 2nd razor because it forces them to iron out their technique. From there, you can get good results with most razors and hone in on what plays to your personal preferences.

maybe more now than when I started out (I'd say roughly 10 years ago)...also keep in mind we have way more options with razors than we did a decade ago.

more razors, soaps, aftershaves, etc., etc..

Nomenclature is a challenge for all of us in this little hobby. I don’t like the term “aggressive” applied to blade-forward razors (where blade feel is obvious) that are also not likely to bite. In my case, blade-forward, yet safe, razors include the Blackbird, R41 2011 and ATT H2, among others. There are also blade-forward razors that can bite (this is the “aggressive” category in my book): Asylum RX, Ikon Shavecraft Tech and PAA DOC Evolution are three examples. Then there are less blade-forward razors that can still deliver an efficient shave, such as the Paradigm 17-4 or Schick E2. Then there are razors I don’t use, as I can’t figure out how to get a close, long-lasting shave, whether blade-forward or not, and whether dangerous or not. These include all Gillette vintage razors and my inaugural razor, the Merkur 34C. I blame my own technique, though I’ve been practicing single-blade shaving almost every day for five or six years...