Barrister and Mann

What, in heaven's name, is 3017.  Suddenly this seems to be popping up a lot.  Am I supposed to have known because I am a wet shaver?

No idea where the term came from, but it means "use it exclusively until it's gone."

Thanks, Will.  I appreciate the explanation but I'll be darned if I can figure out the connection.

Freddy somewhere around 5 years ago a user on another forum sat down and calculated that he had enough soap to last until 2017 [not so far off now].

As a joke, the mods changed the subject from 2017 to 3017. Voila! The term took off to "3017" a soap using it exclusively from start to finish.

What, in heaven's name, is 3017.  Suddenly this seems to be popping up a lot.  Am I supposed to have known because I am a wet shaver?

No idea where the term came from, but it means "use it exclusively until it's gone."

Thanks, Will.  I appreciate the explanation but I'll be darned if I can figure out the connection.

I looked into this some time ago. This is how I understand it, someone else can freely step in to add anything I may have missed.

Aspect 1: On “the big shaving forum” a few years ago, some fellows realized they had enough shaving software to last them to the year 2017. However, some of them also realized that was way too soon, so they added another 100 years. The year 3017 is the year some of these guys assume they will finally have depleted their shaving supplies.

Aspect 2: Along with this realization, someone thought it might be prudent to just use one soap at a time, then after finishing the cream/puck/tub, move on to the next soap. I believe this is called “3017ing” a soap.

As I said, this is my understanding, and I could be wrong, but I hope this helps. Sorry for hijacking the thread, Will.

(See also Kevinâ€s more concise explanation above.)

Glad you're enjoying it, guys. I'm not a big menthol fan myself but, hey, go big or go home, right?

Will, I can guarantee you that there will always be an audience for menthol soaps. Please keep them going!

Glad you're enjoying it, guys. I'm not a big menthol fan myself but, hey, go big or go home, right?

Will, I can guarantee you that there will always be an audience for menthol soaps. Please keep them going!

We'll be making it until the end of August, then bringing it back next year, probably with our new packaging design.

Sandalwood. By a factor of two.

Yikes.  I wonder if you ever did make what direction you would go with for the complexity of the scent.

I honestly couldn't say. It's not something I've considered for soap production. I'd probably build it out into something inspired by grand sandalwood masterpieces, particularly Chanel Bois des Iles/

Your release calendar calls Baudelaire a "semi-limited" limited release.  (I also see that that is what you've called the 42 release.)  Does that mean a limited release with a pre-sale?
Thanks.

Yep, that's exactly it. It's semi-limited in that we'll only make it once this year, but there will be no cap or limit on how many people can pre-order/purchase.

My kind of vendor

No idea where the term came from, but it means "use it exclusively until it's gone."

Thanks, Will.  I appreciate the explanation but I'll be darned if I can figure out the connection.

Freddy somewhere around 5 years ago a user on another forum sat down and calculated that he had enough soap to last until 2017 [not so far off now].

As a joke, the mods changed the subject from 2017 to 3017. Voila! The term took off to "3017" a soap using it exclusively from start to finish.

No idea where the term came from, but it means "use it exclusively until it's gone."

Thanks, Will.  I appreciate the explanation but I'll be darned if I can figure out the connection.

I looked into this some time ago. This is how I understand it, someone else can freely step in to add anything I may have missed.

Aspect 1: On “the big shaving forum” a few years ago, some fellows realized they had enough shaving software to last them to the year 2017. However, some of them also realized that was way too soon, so they added another 100 years. The year 3017 is the year some of these guys assume they will finally have depleted their shaving supplies.

Aspect 2: Along with this realization, someone thought it might be prudent to just use one soap at a time, then after finishing the cream/puck/tub, move on to the next soap. I believe this is called “3017ing” a soap.

As I said, this is my understanding, and I could be wrong, but I hope this helps. Sorry for hijacking the thread, Will.

(See also Kevin’s more concise explanation above.)

Thanks to all of you who replied.  At least now I know.  

However, I have to say, that unless one was there for the original joke, I don't understand its popularity because it is meaningless to anyone else.  It's easier to be clear and state that one is using a product from start to finish rather than give some random number and a whole lot less frustrating to the average person reading it.  I am truly beginning to dislike these crazy and unnecessary shortcuts.  The only one I remember immediately upon seeing is YMMV.  Every other one I have to stop my reading and try to figure out what the heck the poster meant.  I guess I must be the only one so I'll get off my soapbox (for now ).  Again, thanks for the explanation.

It is call laziness Freddy  lol (laughing out loud)

No idea where the term came from, but it means "use it exclusively until it's gone."

Thanks, Will.  I appreciate the explanation but I'll be darned if I can figure out the connection.

Freddy somewhere around 5 years ago a user on another forum sat down and calculated that he had enough soap to last until 2017 [not so far off now].

As a joke, the mods changed the subject from 2017 to 3017. Voila! The term took off to "3017" a soap using it exclusively from start to finish.

It is call laziness Freddy  lol (laughing out loud)  

Yes, I forgot about that one. It's the other that is instantly recognizable, though originally I thought it meant 'lots of luck'. Others, though, no matter how many times I see them, bring me up short. For example, IIRC comes up a lot. I now know what it means but I still have to stop and decode it before I move on in my reading and I hate that. I come from a different generation, I guess.

I have to say, that unless one was there for the original joke, I don't understand its popularity because it is meaningless to anyone else.  It's easier to be clear and state that one is using a product from start to finish rather than give some random number and a whole lot less frustrating to the average person reading it.  I am truly beginning to dislike these crazy and unnecessary shortcuts.  The only one I remember immediately upon seeing is YMMV.  Every other one I have to stop my reading and try to figure out what the heck the poster meant.  I guess I must be the only one so I'll get off my soapbox (for now ).  Again, thanks for the explanation.

Freddy, Iâ€m with you. One problem with acronyms is that sometimes one acronym will mean two or three different things, just as you mentioned concerning “LOL”.

The other thing with acronyms and shortcuts is that oftentimes the original word or saying really isnâ€t that much longer. How difficult is it to write “your” instead of “ur”? (Guess itâ€s time for me to get off the soapbox, as well… LOL.)  

By the way, Will (Barrister_N_Mann), as a language professional Iâ€ve been wondering lately — do you have a preference between Barrister & Mann and Barrister and Mann, or do you just use them interchangeably? Just curious.

I have to say, that unless one was there for the original joke, I don't understand its popularity because it is meaningless to anyone else.  It's easier to be clear and state that one is using a product from start to finish rather than give some random number and a whole lot less frustrating to the average person reading it.  I am truly beginning to dislike these crazy and unnecessary shortcuts.  The only one I remember immediately upon seeing is YMMV.  Every other one I have to stop my reading and try to figure out what the heck the poster meant.  I guess I must be the only one so I'll get off my soapbox (for now ).  Again, thanks for the explanation.

Freddy, I’m with you. One problem with acronyms is that sometimes one acronym will mean two or three different things, just as you mentioned concerning “LOL”.

The other thing with acronyms and shortcuts is that oftentimes the original word or saying really isn’t that much longer. How difficult is it to write “your” instead of “ur”? (Guess it’s time for me to get off the soapbox, as well… LOL.)  

By the way, Will (Barrister_N_Mann), as a language professional I’ve been wondering lately — do you have a preference between Barrister & Mann and Barrister and Mann, or do you just use them interchangeably? Just curious.

Funny you should ask that, actually. When I originally started the company, I kept the ampersand, but, after the LLC was formed and the trademark forms filed, we decided to go with "Barrister and Mann." So I guess Barrister and Mann it is.

A language professional, you say? What do you do with languages?