#21

Veni, vidi, vici
Vault 111
(03-18-2018, 05:42 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: I might be one of the people the OP is talking about as I did post a thread that was closed very early on involving a video of WM razors that I found bizarre.  I’ve been around on this forum a long time, when in the world did we get so sensitive?  Are all WOLFMAN threads forbidden?  Seems anything Wolfman gets shut down almost immediately to prevent hurt feelings.  To the OP I’m not a troll, I have serious issues with how James conducts his business as do many wet shavers, hence 1,400 razor prices on eBay and over a years wait to even buy one on his site..... the way James conducts himself pisses a lot of people off..... not only on this forum but all other shave forums as well.......

Further.... who are you to deem what is post worthy and what is not?  Are you the Himmler of wet shaving and what shall and shall not be posted?

Your post of what is and isn’t click bait, screams of arrogance and hypocrisy..... if you dont like what you read move on.... don’t respond...   your post baits controversy good sir.......

Very nice. First time I have been compared to Himmler. I can really see the comparison there. A more appropriate comparison would be "Miss Manners".

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#22

Super Moderator
San Diego, Cal., USA
(03-18-2018, 05:42 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: I might be one of the people the OP is talking about as I did post a thread that was closed very early on involving a video of WM razors that I found bizarre.  I’ve been around on this forum a long time, when in the world did we get so sensitive?  Are all WOLFMAN threads forbidden?  Seems anything Wolfman gets shut down almost immediately to prevent hurt feelings.  To the OP I’m not a troll, I have serious issues with how James conducts his business as do many wet shavers, hence 1,400 razor prices on eBay and over a years wait to even buy one on his site..... the way James conducts himself pisses a lot of people off..... not only on this forum but all other shave forums as well.......

Further.... who are you to deem what is post worthy and what is not?  Are you the Himmler of wet shaving and what shall and shall not be posted?

Your post of what is and isn’t click bait, screams of arrogance and hypocrisy..... if you dont like what you read move on.... don’t respond...   your post baits controversy good sir.......

You still don’t get it.  Everything about your post here is unnecessarily inflammatory.  Not once was anyone pointing a finger at you, how a particular merchant does business, or a thread that was closed way back when.  Suggesting that someone is like a high ranking nazi is an insult at its worst and completely uncalled for.  The OP was looking for respectful posts, not insults.  And to be clear, respectful posts does not mean that everyone is in lockstep agreement.

If this thread continues in this direction then, yes, it will be closed.  Enough is enough.

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#23

Veni, vidi, vici
Vault 111
(03-18-2018, 05:15 PM)Freddy Wrote:
(03-18-2018, 05:42 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: I might be one of the people the OP is talking about as I did post a thread that was closed very early on involving a video of WM razors that I found bizarre.  I’ve been around on this forum a long time, when in the world did we get so sensitive?  Are all WOLFMAN threads forbidden?  Seems anything Wolfman gets shut down almost immediately to prevent hurt feelings.  To the OP I’m not a troll, I have serious issues with how James conducts his business as do many wet shavers, hence 1,400 razor prices on eBay and over a years wait to even buy one on his site..... the way James conducts himself pisses a lot of people off..... not only on this forum but all other shave forums as well.......

Further.... who are you to deem what is post worthy and what is not?  Are you the Himmler of wet shaving and what shall and shall not be posted?

Your post of what is and isn’t click bait, screams of arrogance and hypocrisy..... if you dont like what you read move on.... don’t respond...   your post baits controversy good sir.......

You still don’t get it.  Everything about your post here is unnecessarily inflammatory.  Not once was anyone pointing a finger at you, how a particular merchant does business, or a thread that was closed way back when.  Suggesting that someone is like a high ranking nazi is an insult at its worst and completely uncalled for.  The OP was looking for respectful posts, not insults.  And to be clear, respectful posts does not mean that everyone is in lockstep agreement.

If this thread continues in this direction then, yes, it will be closed.  Enough is enough.

Thank you Freddy.

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#24
(This post was last modified: 03-18-2018, 08:02 PM by Mickey ObermanSfZ2h8UM.)
. I say let the chips fall where they may and let the readers sort out what for them appears to be wheat and not chaff.
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No one is talking about censorship here sir. How about a little common decency? Is that too much to ask?
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Here we go. Off topic fishing again.

Now its fish and CHIPS!

I find the members and their debates and disagreements in this thread and forum to be very civilized, sensitive, considerate and informative and, yes, fun.

You should check out one of the political fora. Murder is mild by comparison! The absence of obscenity (until now) is welcome and very refreshing.

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#25

Posting Freak
(03-18-2018, 11:14 AM)Mickey ObermanSfZ2h8UM Wrote: Holy mackerel!
Trolling !
Baiting !
I thought this form was about wet shaving, not dry fishing.
Let's stop carping and  fishing for the biggest one.
Lets weigh our scales,  reel in the rhetoric and cast about for some better pearls.
And, just for the halibut, sea  some sun -nier smiles.

Mickey

Mickey, I love your sense of humour Big Grin Have you heard this one?

A photon checks into a hotel.
The desk clerk asks him if he needs help with his bags.
No thanks says the photon, I'm traveling light.
Big Grin

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#26

Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
(03-18-2018, 04:09 AM)BPman Wrote:
(03-17-2018, 12:14 AM)primotenore Wrote:
(03-17-2018, 12:03 AM)Macho camacho Wrote: Although i dont care much for the drama, its inevitable. Also, it makes for a good read during downtimes

Can't agree with you, sorry. There are plenty of places for you to get your fill of rubbish. This should not be the place.


What is considered "rubbish" may oft times be highly subjective. Once we start down the road of censorship then it becomes a very, very slippery slope and usually with no return. I say let the chips fall where they may and let the readers sort out what for them appears to be wheat and not chaff.

having free-for-all forums are awful. I used to help run a forum way back when that was very near that line and it got downright disgusting. people would visit the forum just to talk about drama rather than topics that pertain to the purpose of the forum.

DFS WILL NOT be one of those forums.

(03-18-2018, 05:42 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: I might be one of the people the OP is talking about as I did post a thread that was closed very early on involving a video of WM razors that I found bizarre.  I’ve been around on this forum a long time, when in the world did we get so sensitive?  Are all WOLFMAN threads forbidden?  Seems anything Wolfman gets shut down almost immediately to prevent hurt feelings.  To the OP I’m not a troll, I have serious issues with how James conducts his business as do many wet shavers, hence 1,400 razor prices on eBay and over a years wait to even buy one on his site..... the way James conducts himself pisses a lot of people off..... not only on this forum but all other shave forums as well.......

Further.... who are you to deem what is post worthy and what is not?  Are you the Himmler of wet shaving and what shall and shall not be posted?

Your post of what is and isn’t click bait, screams of arrogance and hypocrisy..... if you dont like what you read move on.... don’t respond...   your post baits controversy good sir.......


most wolfman threads get closed because they devolve into personal attacks and insults. the mod team doesn't have time to sit around and babysit adults, so it's in our best interest to nip stuff like that in the bud as quickly as possible.

also, comparing someone on a shaving forum to a Nazi is pathetic.

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Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito.
#27
We don't need any nazi insults of any kind for any reason period. I wish the member that was insulted gets a PM with sincere apology and lets get back to having fun on this great forum. we come to this great forum to relax, have fun, and share something in common, this great hobby! We all could do without the anger,insults,and stress baloney.



Happy Shaving !
49erShaving

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#28
(03-18-2018, 09:05 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote: ...having free-for-all forums are awful.  I used to help run a forum way back when that was very near that line and it got downright disgusting.  people would visit the forum just to talk about drama rather than topics that pertain to the purpose of the forum...



Of course, forums are privately administered and the admins. have complete power over what to permit & what to not allow. That is often overlooked as it's easy to forget sometimes that forums are not the Roman Coliseum. It is easy to delineate when it's someone rambling on like a madman, however the fly in the ointment is when a forum becomes too heavy handed to the point of deleting/not allowing disparaging posts about a vendor who advertises on said forum. Periodicals were like that in the past when they were the norm. A bad review on Saturday = a call from Chevrolet on Monday morning dropping all advertising. It can be a very fine line.

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Secretary Ramsey put his foot into it yesterday . . . in the course of his remarks he said that California “needs water and better society.”  “So does h-ll,” yelled someone in the crowd.  
#29
(This post was last modified: 03-19-2018, 01:16 AM by Mickey ObermanSfZ2h8UM.)
Thank you, Marko.

It sure beats fishing.

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#30

Sophisticated Stooge
Corpus Christi, TX
I usually subscribe to the "if you don't like the song, change the channel" school of thought. That being said, our hobby, like any other specific interest, is wrought with passionate fans with even more passionate views. Usually that passion manifests itself as civil discussion and, in really great circumstances, in laughter and a smile. In the rare moments when that passion turns rabid and ugly, I've found in this forum that maturity usually wins out and we move on rather quickly. Let the rotten apples stay at the bottom of the barrel, because the sooner we get back to determining what exactly Barbershop scent really is, the sooner we get back to what brought us all together in the first place.

Just my $.02...

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