Art of Shaving (Gillette) launching new safety razors.

And I wonder, bringing this back to topic, if this is why so many modern razors that are American/Canadian/British made, have the fulfillment problems they do...

None of the modern razor makers in N/A are factory. They are all one man shops from what I've seen.

As long as the quality is there, I don't care where stuff is built. Yeah it's cool and bear if it is made in the country you live, Canada for me, but the bottom line is I want quality.

I'm guessing these new $70 Techs won't be up to the vintage quality. In which case, I'll keep the 4-5 I own that I paid $5-15 for each.

And if they do expand to Fatboy, Toggle, Slim, Presidents etc.....you can expect prices to be through the roof.


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And I wonder, bringing this back to topic, if this is why so many modern razors that are American/Canadian/British made, have the fulfillment problems they do...

None of the modern razor makers in N/A are factory. They are all one man shops from what I've seen.

Yes, but why wouldn't they scale up if there were such a demand? Is it possible that local facilities and processes are simply not up to snuff, or even possible to handle larger demand?

And I wonder, bringing this back to topic, if this is why so many modern razors that are American/Canadian/British made, have the fulfillment problems they do...

None of the modern razor makers in N/A are factory. They are all one man shops from what I've seen.

Yes, but why wouldn't they scale up if there were such a demand? Is it possible that local facilities and processes are simply not up to snuff, or even possible to handle larger demand?

Guys like Stan from ATT and Wolfman don't do this full time, there isn't enough money to make a living making custom razors. Overhead and manpower would be financial strains that many of them wouldn't want to take on. As it stands, they can do this for fun, make some extra income and probably walk away from them at any time and not be in debt to banks and backers.

Not to mention, as soon as demand dwindles and everyone who wants one can get them, the value and demand goes down....if that makes sense.

These guys get $200-300 a razor because they only make a handful every few months and are made by hand, to specific customer specs (same as Triad handles). The moment a machine makes them and they are spilling off factory assembly lines with no personal touch, no one will pay the money they are getting for them now.

As soon as the demand for ANY product is met, they aren't as sought after.

Just a guess.

I can't wait to see how many of the P&G revamped Gillette razors are LE stamped or numbered and how much an increase over non numbered ones will be. Now if the first X number were stamped, numbered and made in USA, that would be a different story. But to LE the same junk they are pumping out and up-charging the first off the lines, they are praying on collectors and I won't get sucked in to that.

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Guys like Stan from ATT and Wolfman don't do this full time, there isn't enough money to make a living making custom razors.  Overhead and manpower would be financial strains that many of them wouldn't want to take on.  

But here's the difference, Bruce. There used to be so many smaller vintage razor makers in the Americas that were factory. Some quality stuff too.

No one does that anymore here, for exactly the reasons I bolded in your quote. But, I would also add that we have lack of facilities and equipment here for scale... as well as regulatory hurdles being a major financial restraint.

So... I think the lesson is, if you are an American/Canadian/British razor maker that wants to build for demand, your only choice is China (or similar).

Len I'm not up on which ones were successful in the US etc. If the P&G thing pans out, maybe it will spark someone in N/A to take a gamble on setting up a mass factory.

Rockwell comes to mind as a modern razor that is producing big number or razors made in USA.

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From Rockwell Razors on ordering their razor:

"Please note that the Rockwell 6S is currently under pre-order and does not yet have a defined ship date. There's a significant amount of demand for the Rockwell 6S, so if you're interested in purchasing a Rockwell 6S, we recommend placing your pre-order as soon as possible. By placing a pre-order, you will be at the front of the line to receive a Rockwell 6S once it is ready to ship. We will notify all pre-order customers as soon as we have a definite ship date for the new Rockwell 6S."

My point made... scale, demand, and supply seems to be an issue in the Americas...

Above the tie is another one made in the USA. In fact beamon posted a great article about them just this morning.

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Above the Tie, another good example...

I'm sure its a good quality razor, over the years has had many supply issues... including some currently:

http://www.abovethetie.com/product/above...ombo-pack/

Backordered.

And by the way... I think it is very cool that vintage razors may be remade... but if it will cost more than what you can get the originals in a like new condition, what's the point?

From Rockwell Razors on ordering their razor:

"Please note that the Rockwell 6S is currently under pre-order and does not yet have a defined ship date. There's a significant amount of demand for the Rockwell 6S, so if you're interested in purchasing a Rockwell 6S, we recommend placing your pre-order as soon as possible. By placing a pre-order, you will be at the front of the line to receive a Rockwell 6S once it is ready to ship. We will notify all pre-order customers as soon as we have a definite ship date for the new Rockwell 6S."

My point made... scale, demand, and supply seems to be an issue in the Americas...

This is funny to me because I'm still waiting for the replacement to the original 6S. The first release was not, let's say, their best shoe forward.

Having said that, I'm very thankful for their approach at making things right, that means a lot to me as a customer.