2021/22 Rocnel Sailor Adjustable

I have a vacant WRA2 stand ready for the sailor. 16.2 mm width stand opening. Should be perfect given your dimensions above!

I was thinking the same thing with the WRA2 and the 2021 Sailor , let's see.

The WRA1 (puck) bored for the XL handles fit perfect.

The WRA2 is a great fit too.

Oh that makes a pretty good looking setup, either one of them.

I really have a thing for adjustables. Gillette is my vintage drug of choice. By 2017 I had a decent little collection of some hard to get gear. I had also just kinda gotten over them and was just starting to dabble in modern razors.

Now, my modern adjustable collection is limited to the Sailor Series from Rocnel. As my Gillette interest waned in 2017, the Sailor was released, just in time! I've taken to collecting them now. Recently, I was lucky enough to get my hands on the 2021 #3 Prototype. I've gotten only 2 shaves in with it, but initial reaction is quite positive. If the 2020 is an adjustable WR2, the the 2021 is an adjustable WR1.

2021 has increased blade feel in the low gaps that is linear and consistent through the range. It's not quite as smooth in the upper gaps as the 2020, but its no 2019 on the face either.

The 2021 is well made. Well balanced. Still quite handsome like the 2020, and operates smoothly, just like I expected.

Even slimmed down by 40g or so from 2020, the 2021 still feels substantial. A lot of that loss in weight was in the length of the handle. The 2021 is back to the 2017 75mm length.

New for 2021 is a matching stand. The stand has a peg for the hole in the base of the handle. The base is hefty and the connection is tight enough to prevent accidental tipping.

The packaging is the best I've ever seen. The 2020 blue wooden boxes have been outdone by the 2021. The box makes you feel like you are holding something special. Smaller than the 2020 and more elegant. The straps to hold the razor in place are a much welcomed addition.

LtoR first photo: 2019, 2017, 2020 Model S, 2021 Prototype #3, 2020 Prototype #3

My Brother, I am sorry I completely missed this post earlier! Outstanding assessment and pics! Looking forward to getting this one in my hands. Phil said Murat either shipped them Friday or tomorrow so all of our “preorders” should be in hand in the next week and a half. I have been so focused on updating you on a couple other new Adjustables that I missed your post even after you sent me those pics as a “hint”! Anyway, love this my man and I am pissed that Murat is not sending the stands right now but I understand that it was a weight issue and a huge extra expense to ship them. Can you post a pic of the inside of the stand to see how he made it able to fit down in it with that knob on the side? Thanks, and as always, awesome post and pics!


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Please, no apologies friend. I know you are busy with a couple of new arrivals of your own. It sounds like you've got a couple of winners there too. It's nice having so many really good adjustable options. Great time to be a consumer with an itch. I am anxious to hear how the 2021 compares to the new stuff. That Gibbs clone looks like the gap is massive.

Ya know, sometimes the simplest stuff escapes me. Weight! Thats why the new ones are sans stand. I just threw mine on the scale before grabbing your picture. The stand weighs like 166g! 20g or so more than the razor. I would imagine 10-20 of those would kill you in shipping.

Here is a pic of the stand you aren't getting. Ha! What is interesting is the hole extends all the way to the knurling on the handle, up past the button.

How wide is the base of the stand?


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I was thinking the same thing with the WRA2 and the 2021 Sailor , let's see.

The WRA1 (puck) bored for the XL handles fit perfect.

The WRA2 is a great fit too.

Oh that makes a pretty good looking setup, either one of them.

Yeah, the 2020s fit too. Ive considered getting several WRA2s for the 20s but the high polished stands are pretty expensive. The brushed satin would probably look good too.

My Brother, I am sorry I completely missed this post earlier! Outstanding assessment and pics! Looking forward to getting this one in my hands. Phil said Murat either shipped them Friday or tomorrow so all of our “preorders” should be in hand in the next week and a half. I have been so focused on updating you on a couple other new Adjustables that I missed your post even after you sent me those pics as a “hint”! Anyway, love this my man and I am pissed that Murat is not sending the stands right now but I understand that it was a weight issue and a huge extra expense to ship them. Can you post a pic of the inside of the stand to see how he made it able to fit down in it with that knob on the side? Thanks, and as always, awesome post and pics!


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Please, no apologies friend. I know you are busy with a couple of new arrivals of your own. It sounds like you've got a couple of winners there too. It's nice having so many really good adjustable options. Great time to be a consumer with an itch. I am anxious to hear how the 2021 compares to the new stuff. That Gibbs clone looks like the gap is massive.

Ya know, sometimes the simplest stuff escapes me. Weight! Thats why the new ones are sans stand. I just threw mine on the scale before grabbing your picture. The stand weighs like 166g! 20g or so more than the razor. I would imagine 10-20 of those would kill you in shipping.

Here is a pic of the stand you aren't getting. Ha! What is interesting is the hole extends all the way to the knurling on the handle, up past the button.

How wide is the base of the stand?


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38mm

I can’t be the only one that, after seeing all those beautiful razors, really wants the 2017 version.

I bought a 17 new when released but sold it. Primarliy because I had just gotten into a Wolfman run and wanted more of them. The 2020 forced me to buy another one.

The 2017 is completely user serviceable and is taken down with a Phillips screwdriver. None of the others are. The 2017 also has an interesting blade loading technique. It also has an "eject" feature when you get to the end of the top cap threads. It is also blade specific. Not all blades work. The whole design is kinda odd, in a good way.

Anybody familiar with the Elite? Does the Elite correspond to the Sailor at a middle setting? Thanks!

Anybody familiar with the Elite? Does the Elite correspond to the Sailor at a middle setting? Thanks!

Unfortunately, I've not used any Rocnel 3 piece razors. Ima be no help there. I think george1906 Big G has both. Maybe he will join in.

Anybody familiar with the Elite? Does the Elite correspond to the Sailor at a middle setting? Thanks!

Unfortunately, I've not used any Rocnel 3 piece razors. Ima be no help there. I think george1906 Big G has both. Maybe he will join in.

I don’t have the hew Elite but Andrew (rawfox1) has it. I have had the last 2 Elites and still own the last Elite A model. Very hard to compare it to the 2020 Sailor or the 2021 when I get it. Andrew said the new Elite is pretty mild and Murat is working on a more aggressive plate for it. I just don’t have a need for it anymore with the various options available from the Sailor.


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The new Elite is so smooth and has very good efficiency. The head is heavier than the past Elites and smoother than all of them. The efficiency is in the middle or lower settings of the 2020 Sailor. The aggressiveness is less than the 2019 Elite A and more than the mild plate. I really enjoy the new Elite

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2021 at 50% was very nice today. Smooth and efficient...not a lot of blade feel. Great shave this morning.