#481

Chazz Reinhold HOF
(05-06-2016, 03:46 AM)Marko Wrote: I'd like to make a suggestion that I think would be to the benefit of DFS members as well as our vendor community- I think it is preferable to handle minor deficiency concerns relating to quality, fit and finish via the PM (personal message) route rather than through open posting. I have found all of the vendors and artisans that I've dealt with to be extremely accommodating with respect to questions and concerns that I have had and I think it's only fair to give them the opportunity to remedy any concerns in a discreet manner.  If for some reason the vendor fails or refuses to make it right, then by all means post about it but let's be reasonable and give them a chance before we air our grievances in the open forum.  Does that sound like a fair suggestion?

Well said, it is called, Class!Smile

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#482
Agreed
Shave yourself.
-Todd
#483

Member
Detroit
(05-06-2016, 03:46 AM)Marko Wrote: I'd like to make a suggestion that I think would be to the benefit of DFS members as well as our vendor community- I think it is preferable to handle minor deficiency concerns relating to quality, fit and finish via the PM (personal message) route rather than through open posting. I have found all of the vendors and artisans that I've dealt with to be extremely accommodating with respect to questions and concerns that I have had and I think it's only fair to give them the opportunity to remedy any concerns in a discreet manner.  If for some reason the vendor fails or refuses to make it right, then by all means post about it but let's be reasonable and give them a chance before we air our grievances in the open forum.  Does that sound like a fair suggestion?

No doubt...
- Jeff
#484
Whether it's a vendor or just a transaction between members, there should be an opportunity to resolve a problem without telling the whole community about it.

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Al
#485

Member
East Texas
I appreciate all of your points. My intent in posting was never intended to malign or provoke. My perspective on this is perhaps unpopular.

If the problem issues, no matter how few, are eliminated from the general view, the thread is skewed. I interpreted this thread to be about the DFS LE Brush---not personally about Nathan Clark or even as a vendor. If it's approached the way I did it, a consistent cosmetic or functional flaw with the brush will readily be apparent to the members. If it's infrequent or a fluke, that will be apparent as well. If they're all handled under the table as it were, the members will never recognize a trend. It turns out my initial issue was not unique, but I don't know how many were like mine. The problem was addressed, and I publicly reported that as well. Since the vendor in this case is classy and upstanding, he still saves face because the community can see how he addresses it.

Ultimately, my replacement arrived with yet another problem (as seen in my public post). Mr. Clark is obviously not proud of that, but he provided me 3 viable options in an attempt to make it right. At this point, however, after having to return 2 brushes, I lost faith in the quality. That, gentlemen, is the nature of business, and Mr. Clark is big enough to handle it.

Assuming everyone is reporting issues as they come to light, then this thread still reflects and supports Mr. Clark's credibility as a craftsman. It looks like most of you are enjoying your brushes and the ones depicted here are gorgeous. For a long time, I wanted an EnvyWhite knot and the DFS brush came along and seemed like a great opportunity to own one. My experience, unfortunately, tarnished that expectation.

I do wish you all well, including Mr. Clark, whom I can assure you stands behind his product and will go to great lengths to ensure the customer's satisfaction.

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#486

Super Moderator
San Diego, Cal., USA
(This post was last modified: 05-07-2016, 01:55 AM by Freddy.)
(05-06-2016, 10:35 PM)AFG008 Wrote: Whether it's a vendor or just a transaction between members, there should be an opportunity to resolve a problem without telling the whole community about it.

As always, this is a double edge sword and there is no right or wrong answer.  Looking at the best, without taking away at all from the frustration of 120inna55, Nathan has absolutely done the right thing when things go wrong and has offered very fair fixes.  I sincerely hope this will work for both parties.  Also, just my 2¢, I hope that 120inna55 will give Nathan and the brush one more chance.

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#487

Member
East Texas
(05-07-2016, 01:53 AM)Freddy Wrote: ...Also, just my 2¢, I hope that 120inna55 will give Nathan and the brush one more chance.
Absolutely nothing against the vendor, but no way after 2 strikes. That's pretty much a firm policy I have regardless of the product or vendor, and Mr. Clark has been quite understanding in this respect.
#488

Member
Utah
I respect 120innna55's decision. I'll just cross my fingers that were all move on after those post.

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#489
#62 Arrived Today - ÜberSoft II Synth

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I'm very impressed with the ergonomics of this handle. The depth of color is very difficult to capture and from what I can tell the handle is even better looking in person than any picture I've seen of it to date.

I look forward to trying out this synth knot as it is new to me. I love my Plissons and I'm hoping that this one isn't too much like a STF knot. From my earlier test lather I don't believe that it is, but I'll let my face be the judge in the morning.

A big thank you to Nathan for satisfying my special requests amongst the utter chaos I'm sure he's been through lately.

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>>> Brian <<<
Happy beeps, buddy! Happy beeps!
#490

Restitutor Orbis
#29 here reporting in. Thanks Nathan.


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