#41

Member
Luxembourg
Passiflora is now available on the Barrister_N_Mann site for 12$.
More details on the Facebook page of B&M

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#42
bought one. I just liked B&M Facebook page yesterday, and it paid off today!!

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#43

Hobbyist
Ottawa, Canada
Ordered!
#44
Yep i ordered it. Looks like will and Peter couldn't find a mutual agreement and will just had enough and liquidated entire stock.

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#45

Maker of Soaps and Shaver of Men
Cooperstown, NY, USA
(11-16-2016, 06:49 PM)Murrellington Wrote: Amazon prime memberships cost also and you get free shipping. So it basically is the same.

And if you read the descriptions of these memberships, they state that you get access to limited stuff. "Silver plan includes FREE shipping on all products and access to exclusive products". Also, the new K Shave Worx soap will only be available for diamond members. Might as well get that statement out of the membership descriptions if they will be available for everyone since it is no longer a perk.

Anyway, to stand by the side of the site owner, it was not his choice to make it available to everyone. Apparently tons of people gave Will flack for bit making it available to everyone. Peter had nothing to do with opening it up to non-member so I can't get mad at him for it.

B&M has too large of a loyal fan base, people will get upset if a product is not available for them.

Actually, Peter was just as much a part of the decision as I was. I suggested it to him, yes, in an attempt to alleviate some of the frustration, but he also agreed. He could just as easily have told me that he didn't want to do it. It's not like I held a gun to his head.

(11-18-2016, 01:31 AM)youngunn Wrote: Yep i ordered it. Looks like will and Peter couldn't find a mutual agreement and will just had enough and liquidated entire stock.

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Yeah, the whole thing just ended up being much more of a headache for both parties. We decided that it was best to make a clean break, but we still had 108 jars of Passiflora, so we got rid of them and have offered a refund of the difference to anyone who bought it through The Club.

So then, let me reiterate that here: If you purchased Passiflora through The Club (Murrellington, goodsir, I am looking at you), I am happy to refund you the difference. Just shoot me a PM.

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#46
Already a lots of WTB posts for the soap. I am thinking about putting all the things I couldn't sell together with this soap, and give a WTS post with 'not willing to split' in all caps.

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#47

Maker of Soaps and Shaver of Men
Cooperstown, NY, USA
(11-18-2016, 02:53 AM)iamsms Wrote: Already a lots of WTB posts for the soap. I am thinking about putting all the things I couldn't sell together with this soap, and give a WTS post with 'not willing to split' in all caps.

Good way to make enemies. Big Grin

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#48

Member
Las Vegas, NV, USA
(11-18-2016, 02:17 AM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote: Yeah, the whole thing just ended up being much more of a headache for both parties. We decided that it was best to make a clean break, but we still had 108 jars of Passiflora, so we got rid of them and have offered a refund of the difference to anyone who bought it through The Club.

So then, let me reiterate that here: If you purchased Passiflora through The Club (Murrellington, goodsir, I am looking at you), I am happy to refund you the difference. Just shoot me a PM.

Will, thanks for being so active and open here on the forum. For all parties involved, it’s a bummer that this venture took a turn for the worse, but hopefully it’ll soon be water under the bridge, and perhaps one of those “Note to Self” type thingies.  Undecided

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#49
(11-18-2016, 02:17 AM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote:
(11-16-2016, 06:49 PM)Murrellington Wrote: Amazon prime memberships cost also and you get free shipping. So it basically is the same.

And if you read the descriptions of these memberships, they state that you get access to limited stuff. "Silver plan includes FREE shipping on all products and access to exclusive products". Also, the new K Shave Worx soap will only be available for diamond members. Might as well get that statement out of the membership descriptions if they will be available for everyone since it is no longer a perk.

Anyway, to stand by the side of the site owner, it was not his choice to make it available to everyone. Apparently tons of people gave Will flack for bit making it available to everyone. Peter had nothing to do with opening it up to non-member so I can't get mad at him for it.

B&M has too large of a loyal fan base, people will get upset if a product is not available for them.

Actually, Peter was just as much a part of the decision as I was. I suggested it to him, yes, in an attempt to alleviate some of the frustration, but he also agreed. He could just as easily have told me that he didn't want to do it. It's not like I held a gun to his head.

(11-18-2016, 01:31 AM)youngunn Wrote: Yep i ordered it. Looks like will and Peter couldn't find a mutual agreement and will just had enough and liquidated entire stock.

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Yeah, the whole thing just ended up being much more of a headache for both parties. We decided that it was best to make a clean break, but we still had 108 jars of Passiflora, so we got rid of them and have offered a refund of the difference to anyone who bought it through The Club.

So then, let me reiterate that here: If you purchased Passiflora through The Club (Murrellington, goodsir, I am looking at you), I am happy to refund you the difference. Just shoot me a PM.

Hey Will, I hope it didn't seem like I was pointing the finger at you at all. I don't blame either of you for what happened. Peter just said that a bunch of people on Reddit were giving crap for the soap being limited to club members so it was offered to anyone as a result. He said "It wasn't my decision, I just went along with it". Perhaps he meant to say it wasn't his suggestion but he thought it was a good idea and rolled with it. In any case, what I meant by me sticking to Peter's side was that he wasn't trying to be malicious to paying club members by making it available to anyone, he was just trying to alleviate frustrations with those who didn't have access.

I commend both of you for trying and I doubt either of you predicted this outcome. It was a nice gesture for you to make a soap just for Peter and I know from speaking with him that he was very grateful for it. This is a classic case of you can't please everyone. Anyway, no refund needed. I was fine with paying $20 a piece when I bought them and asking for a refund is just putting salt in the would. The only part I was bummed about was originally joining a year subscription for an exclusive that became open to everyone the next day. Either way, you've both shown class and I'll continue to support you both in the future.

Moving on, can't wait to smell this bad boy.

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#50
(11-18-2016, 03:13 AM)Matsilainen Wrote:
(11-18-2016, 02:17 AM)Barrister_N_Mann Wrote: Yeah, the whole thing just ended up being much more of a headache for both parties. We decided that it was best to make a clean break, but we still had 108 jars of Passiflora, so we got rid of them and have offered a refund of the difference to anyone who bought it through The Club.

So then, let me reiterate that here: If you purchased Passiflora through The Club (Murrellington, goodsir, I am looking at you), I am happy to refund you the difference. Just shoot me a PM.

Will, thanks for being so active and open here on the forum. For all parties involved, it’s a bummer that this venture took a turn for the worse, but hopefully it’ll soon be water under the bridge, and perhaps one of those “Note to Self” type thingies.  Undecided

Totally agree. Like I said, an outcome that two great business owners simply could not predict. And the gestures showcased have already put water under the bridge in my mind.

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