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(This post was last modified: 04-05-2016, 03:53 AM by primotenore.)
(04-05-2016, 01:40 AM)bakerbarber Wrote: 25 is a lot.
lol

There's only 52 weeks in a year. If one soap lasted 4 weeks you could shave for 2 years with just one soap from each- artisan...

How can you decide something is really great and consistently performs well if you have to try 25 different brands who each have multiple different scents and varieties?

I'm not even interested in trying everything. I agree with grim in that I want to know what not to try. Like say Erasmic shave sticks. Don't really know anyone who loves those things, at least not the 'current' formulation.

If I had to buy a full puck or tub of every shave soap from every artisan and in every style offered I'd go broke and never finish one of them. Heck I may not even get around to trying every one of them.

By the time you use 25 soaps, in two or more years, you'll have missed two years worth of new products.

Are we just chasing the dragon? Maybe we're all gone mad with RAD, SAD, and ADD on top? At what point, if any, do we just find one we like and stop searching?

I'm not a minimalist by any stretch of the imagination mind you. I'm shocked too.
Had no idea there was that much soap out there either.

My dad drank Milwaukee's Best and Pabst Blue Ribbon. He was happy too. One or the other. Maybe something exotic here and there for a special occasion.

Is it special anymore if I don't have a brand to deviate from? Dad had a brand. Am I diluted with too many brands?

I know one thing, my wallet can't take it.

Maybe if our fathers and grandfathers had had as many choices as we do today, their shave dens would look like ours do. Smile

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No Tabula Rasa, arguably the worlds best soap/croap ?
No Meißner Tremonia ?
No Saponificio Varesino ?
No Martin de Candre ?
No Le Pere Lucien ?
No Savons des Volcans Bon Berger ?
No Nuavia, which is FAR better than Panacrema ?
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Great video TSEvangelist! I always enjoy seeing your picks. You've tried quite a lot of the artisans so your experience is always helpful.

For me personally, I'd probably swap the Mystic Water and CRSW spots - I believe MW is significantly better. And Phoenix would be fairly high on my own list.
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(04-05-2016, 05:42 AM)CHSeifert Wrote: No Tabula Rasa, arguably the worlds best soap/croap ?
No Meißner Tremonia ?
No Saponificio Varesino ?
No Martin de Candre ?
No Le Pere Lucien ?
No Savons des Volcans Bon Berger ?
No Nuavia, which is FAR better than Panacrema ?

I guess these artisans don't "support" him... Maybe he has not even tried these soaps. No surprise.

MT, LPL, SV and Nuavia are better than most of the American artisan soaps, some of them are just garbage with cheap scents.

Next video: How to support the American artisans

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(04-05-2016, 05:42 AM)CHSeifert Wrote: No Tabula Rasa, arguably the worlds best soap/croap ?
No Meißner Tremonia ?
No Saponificio Varesino ?
No Martin de Candre ?
No Le Pere Lucien ?
No Savons des Volcans Bon Berger ?
No Nuavia, which is FAR better than Panacrema ?
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(04-05-2016, 05:42 AM)CHSeifert Wrote: No Tabula Rasa, arguably the worlds best soap/croap ?
No Meißner Tremonia ?
No Saponificio Varesino ?
No Martin de Candre ?
No Le Pere Lucien ?
No Savons des Volcans Bon Berger ?
No Nuavia, which is FAR better than Panacrema ?


Tabula Rasa - Good but a little pricey IMO.
Meisner - Good but I don't care that much for their scents. I did buy them and after a good bit of use I got rid of them.
MDC - Excellent and will be in my best Luxury products list
Saponificio Varesino - Excellent and will be on my best luxury products list
LPL - Don't care for the scents, good performer but a little pricey.
Nuavia - Own but have not used it. At $80 it cold only be a luxury category. It will have to be very very good to justify this sort of price.
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(04-05-2016, 09:46 AM)Fargo Wrote:
(04-05-2016, 05:42 AM)CHSeifert Wrote: No Tabula Rasa, arguably the worlds best soap/croap ?
No Meißner Tremonia ?
No Saponificio Varesino ?
No Martin de Candre ?
No Le Pere Lucien ?
No Savons des Volcans Bon Berger ?
No Nuavia, which is FAR better than Panacrema ?

I guess these artisans don't "support" him... Maybe he has not even tried these soaps. No surprise.

MT, LPL, SV and Nuavia are better than most of the American artisan soaps, some of them are just garbage with cheap scents.

Next video: How to support the American artisans

Your accusations are off base. I have tried a number of the products you mention, see answers above.
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(This post was last modified: 04-05-2016, 01:53 PM by grim.)
TSEvangelist I don't agree with your ordering but that's OK, it's just a subjective opinion. It's not like they are measurable objective items that are written in granite. But I was serious - What should I not buy? What is the garbage stuff? Or is this just a case of if I didn't mention it, don't bother?

And this is just curious. I applaud you for taking the time and effort of doing these videos. I understand this has to take a gre reaat deal of effort. Kudos to you.

But do you really buy all this stuff? what do you do do with it all. You can't possible, ever, use all this stuff. It's impossible.

Curious minds want to know.

And why separate "Luxury" from "artisan"? what does it matter. If you buy 3 "artisan" for One "luxury" its moot. You can't possibly use 3 artisans.

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(This post was last modified: 04-05-2016, 01:59 PM by SCShaver.)
(04-05-2016, 09:46 AM)Fargo Wrote:
(04-05-2016, 05:42 AM)CHSeifert Wrote: No Tabula Rasa, arguably the worlds best soap/croap ?
No Meißner Tremonia ?
No Saponificio Varesino ?
No Martin de Candre ?
No Le Pere Lucien ?
No Savons des Volcans Bon Berger ?
No Nuavia, which is FAR better than Panacrema ?

I guess these artisans don't "support" him... Maybe he has not even tried these soaps. No surprise.

MT, LPL, SV and Nuavia are better than most of the American artisan soaps, some of them are just garbage with cheap scents.

Next video: How to support the American artisans

This mess is over the top. Why so accusatory? First of all, he made it crystal clear that it was his experience, and he had rules for how he judged the artisans. This is your second post in the thread, where you did not disagree like a gentleman, but instead you decided to take shots in a passive aggressive sarcastic tone. If YOU think that the artisans you mentioned are better, do your own top 25???? Or at least make a legit case for your artisan picks and handle it like a man, rather than whine about how the foreign artisans were left out? But the sarcasm and passive aggressive whining is ridiculous. Act like a gentleman and put your own top guys up there and explain why, rather than denigrating TSE's picks and acting like he has some type of bias or he is being partisan. I tell you, I'm shocked sometimes, how personally people take it when their favorite soap/razor/brush isn't mentioned in some top 10 or top 25 list, and they go OVER THE TOP to slam someone's opinions.

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(04-05-2016, 01:53 PM)grim Wrote: TSEvangelist I don't agree with your ordering but that's OK, it's just a subjective opinion. It's not like they are measurable objective items that are written in granite. But I was serious - What should I not buy? What is the garbage stuff? Or is this just a case of if I didn't mention it, don't bother?

And this is just curious. I applaud you for taking the time and effort of doing these videos. I understand this has to take a gre reaat deal of effort. Kudos to you.

But do you really buy all this stuff? what do you do do with it all. You can't possible, ever, use all this stuff. It's impossible.

Curious minds want to know.

And why separate "Luxury" from "artisan"? what does it matter. If you buy 3 "artisan" for One "luxury" its moot. You can't possibly use 3 artisans.


Yes, I do buy all this stuff. Every now and then an artisan will send me something to try and I try it and then send it to someone else. If I like it, I buy it.

Do I use all these products? Yes, and you can see that I do every day. Can I ever finish them up, no. It would be impossible for me to finish them all. Every now and then I'll re-evaluate and get rid of what I don't want to keep around.

Everyone has their own definition of what artisan means, but for me, when it gets to the triple milled level it falls into a different category.

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