#11

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andrewjs18, I had a ton of trouble with the site yesterday. It was going on and off line for a good part of the day. In one case, I was just about to send you a screenshot of something I thought odd when the site went down for a fourth or fifth time and at that point I gave up for the rest of the day. Was this the reason? I didn't have trouble with any other sites.

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#12
Ok, so this wasn't just a more intense "Hallows Release Broke the Internet" like we saw in 2015 Wink

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#13

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Philadelphia, PA
That was expected...I deleted some secondary dns records.

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#14
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2016, 09:23 PM by Hobbyist.)
I don't know if this is related or not but the only soap on Stirling's website that shows reviews is Arkadia. They all show the average star rating, which is 5 on most, but the number of reviews shows 0 and there are no reviews to see. For some reason Arkadia is normal though.

Update: I just checked their splashes and balms and it's the same thing except in addition to Arkadia, Autumn Glory also has reviews. Everything else I clicked on has 0 reviews, which is definitely not correct.
#15

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Philadelphia, PA
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2016, 09:54 PM by andrewjs18.)
(10-22-2016, 09:19 PM)Hobbyist Wrote: I don't know if this is related or not but the only soap on Stirling's website that shows reviews is Arkadia. They all show the average star rating, which is 5 on most, but the number of reviews shows 0 and there are no reviews to see. For some reason Arkadia is normal though.

Update: I just checked their splashes and balms and it's the same thing except in addition to Arkadia, Autumn Glory also has reviews. Everything else I clicked on has 0 reviews, which is definitely not correct.

it's probably a DNS issue still. dyn might of changed their server IPs and stirling's site is still processing queries with old records. that's my guess..

edited to add: that or shopify or whatever software he uses switched things around and his site is still loading assets from old locations that haven't cleared through the cache yet.

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#16
While it might be hard to feel bad for the likes of large corporations that went "offline" I certainly feel for the small guys that couldn't sell for most of the day.

Should be interesting to see what the final number (in losses) this little incident comes up to. Imagine how many flights Kayak couldn't book. How much PayPal lost in fees. And there were literally hundreds of sites affected, including Amazon.
#17

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(This post was last modified: 10-23-2016, 01:00 AM by andrewjs18.)
(10-23-2016, 12:58 AM)BoarderPhreak Wrote: While it might be hard to feel bad for the likes of large corporations that went "offline" I certainly feel for the small guys that couldn't sell for most of the day.

Should be interesting to see what the final number (in losses) this little incident comes up to.  Imagine how many flights Kayak couldn't book.  How much PayPal lost in fees.  And there were literally hundreds of sites affected, including Amazon.

hopefully they learn to not have a single point of failure now.
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#18
BoarderPhreak, we had orders come through with PayPal eCheck payments. This is a first, the customers reported it as first for them too. Maybe it is related to the DDoS attack not sure.
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#19
(10-23-2016, 01:00 AM)andrewjs18 Wrote: hopefully they learn to not have a single point of failure now.

DNS, by nature has redundancy... But of course that depends on having multiple nameservers across different registrars. If all your nameservers sit with one company... Yeah, you're screwed, especially if your TTL is short and nobody has a valid cached IP. You're right though - hopefully this is a big learning experience and wake up call.

(10-23-2016, 01:06 AM)whollykaw Wrote: BoarderPhreak, we had orders come through with PayPal eCheck payments. This is a first, the customers reported it as first for them too. Maybe it is related to the DDoS attack not sure.

Interesting. Certain features are likely handled in different geographically located datacenters, which have their own set of infrastructure/dependencies. But this was a clever attack, hitting the right point in the DNS hierarchy to cause serious issues... Even for the likes of these big companies that have massive redundancy.
#20
I have to take my tinfoil hat off.

I see the issue from the perspective of who gained from doing it and why. As well as who is capable of doing it. I'm cognizant of the fact that I couldn't even begin to actually understand the situation by reading the headlines or watching the news in the US.

The more I read about it the less I want to read about it. The motives. The implications. The consequences if it would to happen twice as bad the next time.

The whole thing stinks of being a part of a bigger issue.

The headlines are all about Netflix and Twitter as if either of them matter in the grand scheme of things. The company that was affected the most is supposed to specialize in insulating others from ddos attacks isn't it? Am I misinformed or misunderstanding what happened?

I feel like what we're being told happened, who likely did it, and how it went down is not the truth. Have felt that way about a lot of things but never as much as in the past few years... 15 at least.

I have to take my tinfoil hat off.

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