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(This post was last modified: 05-29-2016, 07:55 PM by CHSeifert.)
Look, I still think it's worth giving badger brushes a try.

I know they are very pricy compared to boars and synthetics, and some don't even feel they perform better, so why pay the extra price for them ?

However I feel personally, that the feel I get from the badger brushes still is far superios to what I get, when I use my boars and synthetics.

Is it worth 5-6-7-8 times what a synthetic cost ?

Probably not, but once you start to examine the badger brush world, you open up to a new and exciting world, expensive, yes, but quite fascinating too, if you ask me.

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#12

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Minnesota
(05-28-2016, 08:51 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: Look, I still think it's worth giving badger brushes a try.

I know they are very pricy compared to boars and synthetics, and some don't even feel they perform better, so why pay the extra price for them ?

However I feel personally, that the feel I get from the badger brushes still is far superios to what I get, when I use my boars and synthetics.

Is it worth 5-6-7-8 times what a synthetic cost ?

Probably not, but once you start to examing the badger brush world, you open up to a new and exciting world, expensive, yes, but quite fascinating too if you ask me.


I agree with you 100%. But I will also say, that good badger does not HAVE to be super expensive either. I live in the U.S., so apologies if my ideas are not possible for someone reading this.

It is mostly true that you get what you pay for, but as most of us know, sometimes you are paying for "The Paint Job". There are plenty of sources for GOOD badger knots, and so many fine artisans who will set them for you.... In a handle that was designed and requested by you. Yours, the only one on Earth.

Badger is BY FAR my favorite brush, but I was already starting to think that with my first $30 Whipped Dog, and it has carried true to the best badger's I own. And compared to a ton of guys here, I am still a church mouse.

Talk to guys like Nathan Clark, Doug Korn, Rudy Vey. Look at their galleries. I promise, your bang for the buck is with them. They will all set knots into beautiful handles for you. And knots (unless we are talking Shavemac) are cheap. You can pick ANYTHING you want from EnvyShave (Nathan Clark), or TGN for 60$. (And that is Top o Line...)

So to be blunt: Crap badger is the worst brush in existence. IMO, GOOD (not necessarily expensive) badger is the best, and nothing else comes close.

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(05-28-2016, 09:45 PM)PickledNorthern Wrote: ....

Talk to guys like Nathan Clark, Doug Korn, Rudy Vey. Look at their galleries. I promise, your bang for the buck is with them. They will all set knots into beautiful handles for you.  And knots (unless we are talking Shavemac) are cheap. You can pick ANYTHING you want from EnvyShave (Nathan Clark), or TGN...


I agree.
Shave yourself.
-Todd
#14
(05-28-2016, 08:51 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: Look, I still think it's worth giving badger brushes a try.

I know they are very pricy compared to boars and synthetics, and some don't even feel they perform better, so why pay the extra price for them ?

However I feel personally, that the feel I get from the badger brushes still is far superios to what I get, when I use my boars and synthetics.

Is it worth 5-6-7-8 times what a synthetic cost ?

Probably not, but once you start to examing the badger brush world, you open up to a new and exciting world, expensive, yes, but quite fascinating too if you ask me.

Claus - I have owned 5 badgers, to include a Simpson Colonel. Also, I got your advice when I upgraded to a Thater 3 band back at TSN several months ago, which I am very pleased with by the way. I also have a Nathan Clark DFS Envy White, thus I have some experience with badgers but not as much as you and many others.

The reason I started this thread was to find out if Thater has a Super badger because I had never seen one, and owning a Thater I had spent over a month looking at the choices they offer. I admit to being confused on super vs silvertip grades because some companies offer both, like Epsilon, which charges more for the Silvertip than their Super. I don't doubt that Simpson Super badger is on par with Silvertip, but for me I preferred spending much less on a Thater Silvertip that I knew would be one of the softest brushes made.

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(05-28-2016, 07:03 AM)Hobbyist Wrote: Let's just forget I bought it up. I prefer synthetics anyway. My Thater and Envy White are the last two badgers I will ever by most likely.

I really hope this is not due to what I (we) wrote here...great badgers are great fun IMO - and I am just starting to discover them

(05-29-2016, 12:53 AM)Hobbyist Wrote:
(05-28-2016, 08:51 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: Look, I still think it's worth giving badger brushes a try.

I know they are very pricy compared to boars and synthetics, and some don't even feel they perform better, so why pay the extra price for them ?

However I feel personally, that the feel I get from the badger brushes still is far superios to what I get, when I use my boars and synthetics.

Is it worth 5-6-7-8 times what a synthetic cost ?

Probably not, but once you start to examing the badger brush world, you open up to a new and exciting world, expensive, yes, but quite fascinating too if you ask me.

Claus - I have owned 5 badgers, to include a Simpson Colonel. Also, I got your advice when I upgraded to a Thater 3 band back at TSN several months ago, which I am very pleased with by the way. I also have a Nathan Clark DFS Envy White, thus I have some experience with badgers but not as much as you and many others.

The reason I started this thread was to find out if Thater has a Super badger because I had never seen one, and owning a Thater I had spent over a month looking at the choices they offer. I admit to being confused on super vs silvertip grades because some companies offer both, like Epsilon, which charges more for the Silvertip than their Super. I don't doubt that Simpson Super badger is on par with Silvertip, but for me I preferred spending much less on a Thater Silvertip that I knew would be one of the softest brushes made.

As with everything: some people price their costs + markups - others just try to get a maximum profit.

At the moment 2-band hair is all the rage, that's why it is the most expensive hair grade in many places...doesn't necessary reflect the actual cost of the hair

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(05-29-2016, 04:29 AM)alfredus Wrote:
(05-28-2016, 07:03 AM)Hobbyist Wrote: Let's just forget I bought it up. I prefer synthetics anyway. My Thater and Envy White are the last two badgers I will ever by most likely.

I really hope this is not due to what I (we) wrote here...great badgers are great fun IMO - and I am just starting to discover them

(05-29-2016, 12:53 AM)Hobbyist Wrote:
(05-28-2016, 08:51 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: Look, I still think it's worth giving badger brushes a try.

I know they are very pricy compared to boars and synthetics, and some don't even feel they perform better, so why pay the extra price for them ?

However I feel personally, that the feel I get from the badger brushes still is far superios to what I get, when I use my boars and synthetics.

Is it worth 5-6-7-8 times what a synthetic cost ?

Probably not, but once you start to examing the badger brush world, you open up to a new and exciting world, expensive, yes, but quite fascinating too if you ask me.

Claus - I have owned 5 badgers, to include a Simpson Colonel. Also, I got your advice when I upgraded to a Thater 3 band back at TSN several months ago, which I am very pleased with by the way. I also have a Nathan Clark DFS Envy White, thus I have some experience with badgers but not as much as you and many others.

The reason I started this thread was to find out if Thater has a Super badger because I had never seen one, and owning a Thater I had spent over a month looking at the choices they offer. I admit to being confused on super vs silvertip grades because some companies offer both, like Epsilon, which charges more for the Silvertip than their Super. I don't doubt that Simpson Super badger is on par with Silvertip, but for me I preferred spending much less on a Thater Silvertip that I knew would be one of the softest brushes made.

As with everything: some people price their costs + markups - others just try to get a maximum profit.

At the moment 2-band hair is all the rage, that's why it is the most expensive hair grade in many places...doesn't necessary reflect the actual cost of the hair


I don't know for sure whether I will buy another badger or not, but it would have nothing to do with this thread if I didn't. I just figure since I already have a Thater and a 2 band Envy White, I pretty much have the bases covered for softness and backbone. I use each of those brushes once a week on average and one of my synthetics the other 5 days. Who knows what the future holds though, I may decide to buy another badger but for now I'm more interested in synthetics.

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(05-29-2016, 06:19 AM)Hobbyist Wrote:
(05-29-2016, 04:29 AM)alfredus Wrote:
(05-28-2016, 07:03 AM)Hobbyist Wrote: Let's just forget I bought it up. I prefer synthetics anyway. My Thater and Envy White are the last two badgers I will ever by most likely.

I really hope this is not due to what I (we) wrote here...great badgers are great fun IMO - and I am just starting to discover them

(05-29-2016, 12:53 AM)Hobbyist Wrote: Claus - I have owned 5 badgers, to include a Simpson Colonel. Also, I got your advice when I upgraded to a Thater 3 band back at TSN several months ago, which I am very pleased with by the way. I also have a Nathan Clark DFS Envy White, thus I have some experience with badgers but not as much as you and many others.

The reason I started this thread was to find out if Thater has a Super badger because I had never seen one, and owning a Thater I had spent over a month looking at the choices they offer. I admit to being confused on super vs silvertip grades because some companies offer both, like Epsilon, which charges more for the Silvertip than their Super. I don't doubt that Simpson Super badger is on par with Silvertip, but for me I preferred spending much less on a Thater Silvertip that I knew would be one of the softest brushes made.

As with everything: some people price their costs + markups - others just try to get a maximum profit.

At the moment 2-band hair is all the rage, that's why it is the most expensive hair grade in many places...doesn't necessary reflect the actual cost of the hair


I don't know for sure whether I will buy another badger or not, but it would have nothing to do with this thread if I didn't. I just figure since I already have a Thater and a 2 band Envy White, I pretty much have the bases covered for softness and backbone. I use each of those brushes once a week on average and one of my synthetics the other 5 days. Who knows what the future holds though, I may decide to buy another badger but for now I'm more interested in synthetics.


My thoughts are (as a badger lover) that with the brushes you already own, you have a great reference point to speak from. If those brushes don't have you sold, you likely never will be. That is maybe a "Good for You", because everything else is a lot cheaper.

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