(This post was last modified: 10-15-2017, 03:35 AM by Blagoja Rajevski.)
(10-14-2017, 04:31 PM)mitchcumsteen Wrote: Not sure why so many piss on this razor and the material its .are of. Gareth has proved to put out solid product, in spite of challenges.
I have a 6S and a 2C. My 2C plate had a sharp burr on it and Gareth shipped me a replacment immediately.
Don't give the guy crap about not offering stainless. Buy something else if that's your requirment.
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I used to praise Gareth too when I first bought the 6S and still do speak positive of the 6S. For all those that joined the Model T KS and asked for refund got the refund including me, there is no reason to bash on Gareth he is an honest men no doubt.
Here where the problem was with the razor, no one raved for SS version, the very first original version was all brass except for the handle rod in coated zinc, but since KS exceeded numbers and people asked for Gareth to change the rod from zinc to brass he was more than happy to change it.
First prototypes hit Gareth hands, they were all brass, nice looking and precise fitment. What Gareth didn't knew at that time that the manufacturer sent those prototypes to him without telling him that he did some minor machining on them in order all parts to click together with precision.
So naturally Gareth was happy with the prototypes and not knowing regarding the CNC touch ups and only thing left to do is wait for big production to start along with the coating and then assembly.
When all was said and done majority of the razors didn't had good fitment and they were off, naturally then was when his manufacturer spilled the beans regarding the CNC touch up..... AKA bad news for him and us.
Gareth had 3 options at that time in my guess:
1. Drop the bullet,cancel the KS and refund all partially so the company wont take a big loss;
2. Ask the manufacturer how much extra will the CNC touch up cost lets say ($10-$30) more per razor and naturally since we know how people are they wont have it paying extra for whatever reason it is for them and I'm not blaming the backers that will back out but expect around 50-70% of the backers to have issue with this;
3. The option Gareth took, provide the zinc/brass/SS version combo parts, keep the same price and only lose the 10% who didn't wanted the latest version and were waiting on answers for the SS version, naturally the SS version flopped and 50% who were interest in the SS version asked for refund and the rest stick with the latest version.
From business stand point he made a smart choice by losing only 5% of the backers and no one ended up being bitter because all that backed away got refunded.
I personally am not bashing Gareth because I got the refund, I wish though he should of stick to his guns and instead of offering us SS version as last minute thing, he should of offered us the all brass version with the CNC touch up and we would of paid the extra cost. Would of cost us probably 100-120 for the razor but at least *** We all knew the all brass version was doable because he had 15 piece prototypes in his and his friends hands***
Its beyond my understanding why would you go starting a brand new razor with different metal construction and different molding method when you already had 15 working razors in first place. He would of keep the 90% by selling them the latest version and us the 10% giving us the all brass version at higher price.
I'm not mad with Gareth, have no reason to do so. Hope the Model T will be great success for every body and who knows maybe down the road he will work out the kinks and actually be able to offer either all brass or all SS version of the Model T, one can never know