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(12-12-2016, 03:04 AM)rsp1202 Wrote: I'll look forward to future releases. I trust your eye.

Thanks, but it's really not that. We can't make every brush to suit me. It's more like matching knots to handles and deciding what set-depth works best for a particular combination, which isn't to say there's only one right depth. But we never, ever just stick a knot in a handle and glue it. It's always a mindful process.

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#122
I've been fortunate in having used several of your brush models from various releases, and thought they were all top-notch. I appreciate the care you take in putting them together. While I do have a preference in handle shape and color, I no longer worry about the rest because you've already done so.

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(12-12-2016, 01:48 AM)ChiefBroom Wrote: Someone on another board observed that someone else who runs a big company is very accommodating (with the implication that we are not, which is probably true in some respects). But that company doesn't post front and back photos of every brush it offers, and it doesn't measure and provide loft and free loft for every brush it offers. That takes a lot of time.

Given how variable natural fibers are, the photos really do add a lot of value. I could send a brushmaker the exact same requirements twice and get two different looking (and feeling) brushes, so I prefer your method. Kudos on another successful release.



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(12-12-2016, 05:18 AM)Watson Wrote: I could send a brushmaker the exact same requirements twice and get two different looking (and feeling) brushes.
This!

Exactly.

Why haven't I ever thought to say that?

And, of course, it applies to us as well.

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#125
I'm glad we agree! Feel free to use that line of thinking as your own, should it ever come in handy.


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(12-12-2016, 03:24 PM)Watson Wrote: I'm glad we agree! Feel free to use that line of thinking as your own, should it ever come in handy.
Thanks.

In fairness, I think what you said is more true in relation to some makers than others. And that's not to suggest more true or less implies better or worse on either side.

My impression is that Shavemac knots, for example, are very highly consistent. In my experience, Lee's were not. But it wasn't the inconsistency (except as related to quality in some respects, e.g., glue showing) that drove me crazy, it was having buyers end up disappointed because they expected their brushes to look like one or another someone else had posted about. That happened a lot.

Consistency can be very good.

Variety can also be very good. But variety poses challenges, especially when dealing with discriminating brush-buyers.

Where I came out based largely on experience gained from offering brushes with knots installed by Lee is that I'd rather have us offer variety and face the challenge of how to fairly describe/represent each brush. That's why we make individual photos, provide knots codes, measure loft and free loft for each brush, and assign corresponding serial numbers. For us, all of that is part of the product. I don't think this is broadly understood yet. But then I haven't explained it very well.

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#127
I posted what follows (in italics) on another board on February 2, 2013 (almost four years ago). At the time I was still refining my first handle-design, had only purchased two M&Fs directly from Lee, and had not yet conceived the idea of approaching him about a group buy on B&B (that came a couple weeks later).

Knots don't start out being Rooney, or M&F, or Simpson, or Plisson. They start out as badger hair. Hair from different badgers gets sorted into lots, or at least that's what I assume. Buyer's negotiate to purchase lots. Sometimes those buyer's may be individual brush makers who either keep the lot for exclusive use in making their own brushes, or part some of it off to others. If they sell some of, there might be no real difference between what they keep and what they let go, or they might [further] sort and split it up based on their assessment of comparative quality. My sense is that some lots are bought by individuals/companies who serve as distributors. Where this leads is that I'm not sure how much sense it makes to think in terms of Rooney knots vs. M&F knots. And it's constantly changing anyway, depending on supply. You actually may be making it harder than it really is.

I think the best place to start is by trying some different kinds of knots to figure out characteristics you like, such as 2-band vs. 3-band, knot diameter, loft, density, soft, scrubby, scritchy, floppy, springy, etc. If you're lucky, you'll resolve to a fairly narrow set of criteria that will makes selection fairly simple. If you're not lucky, you'll end up like me and revel in variety....

My experience with
[Lee] is that he'll try to understand what you want and then refer to different batches/knots he has that have this or that "feel". My impression sometimes has been that knots "surface" and he remembers and/or can identify when/where they likely came from and what other brushes they might be most like. It's not science, but so far what I've received is exactly what I was given to expect.

Of course he can't give every batch a different name.

On the other hand, it has occurred to me that it would be nice if brushes could be identified to batches. That would make it a lot easier for the user community to discuss and compare experience with a more-or-less common frame-of-reference.
[Here my tongue went into my cheek.] It could also be good marketing because collectors would likely go after multiple examples of the same style brush made from different batches, and all kinds of new brush lore could spin out based on real and imagined differences. Wouldn't that be fun?

Now that I think about it, they should identify knots to individual badgers.

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#128
ChiefBroom

Do you remember posting this, almost 5y ago today?

My how times have changed....for the better I may add.

"The only reason I had a brush was that one came in a sample collection of The Art of Shaving products, and I wasn't doing much more with the Cella and Prorasa solid creams than I'd done with The Art of Shaving cream, which was to get some on my wetted brush and spread it around on my face"

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(12-12-2016, 05:18 PM)brucered Wrote: ChiefBroom

Do you remember posting this, almost 5y ago today?

My how times have changed....for the better I may add.

"The only reason I had a brush was that one came in a sample collection of The Art of Shaving products, and I wasn't doing much more with the Cella and Prorasa solid creams than I'd done with The Art of Shaving cream, which was to get some on my wetted brush and spread it around on my face"
Yes, I had a very steep trajectory in the beginning. First, 60+ razors in six months. Then 30+ brushes in three months. But once I figured it out for myself, I pretty much stopped buying.

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#130
Group hug before heading off to the Post Office and their new homes.

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