Noble Otter

I honestly was going to try a sample from Maggard's, but I just see too many reviews such as frenchy's that seem to echo his words of "They do need to tweak the base.". That is not a bad thing as every soap maker has had to do as such. After all, da Vinci's first painting wasn't his best.  I am going to wait a bit as I think this vendor is just on the cusp of greatness.

The base is fantastic. The only reason to wait is if you require the creaminess and cushion that GD and WK have. Otherwise, this base does everything you would want it to and then some.

They already "tweaked the base". The current offering is v2 which only came out about 2 months ago.

Yessir. And at least IMO, I think the base can compete with the best.

Yep...agreed. It does lack cushion. Eagerly awaiting v3.

OK, but frenchy was the one you tested the v2?

OK, but frenchy was the one you tested the v2?  

Yes....yes it was...The Trail and Barrbar..

BPman Wrote:
I honestly was going to try a sample from Maggard's, but I just see too many reviews such as frenchy's that seem to echo his words of "They do need to tweak the base.". That is not a bad thing as every soap maker has had to do as such. After all, da Vinci's first painting wasn't his best. Wink I am going to wait a bit as I think this vendor is just on the cusp of greatness.

You’re doing yourself a huge disservice if you don’t try NO. Anyone in here who isn’t experiencing a good lather is most definitely not lathering it or hydrating it right. To me the new base shits all over WKDM.

You’re doing yourself a huge disservice if you don’t try NO. Anyone in here who isn’t experiencing a good lather is most definitely not lathering it or hydrating it right. To me the new base shits all over WKDM.

Rud of Ruds Shaves on Youtube gives the newest v2 a score of 92 and I generally agree with Ruds. After cleaning out a lot of soaps that I rarely used, or just had grown bored with, I decided to limit myself to the best of the best whenever I could and not waste money on other soaps when possible. The only two I really want to try now are unfortunately damn near impossible to score: Grooming Dept. & Talbot. I want to see if they can best my #1 Sudsy Soapery. A friend is going to gift me some Wholly Kaw DM soap in the next month when he's in town to try as well.

You’re doing yourself a huge disservice if you don’t try NO. Anyone in here who isn’t experiencing a good lather is most definitely not lathering it or hydrating it right. To me the new base shits all over WKDM.

Rud of Ruds Shaves on Youtube gives the newest v2 a score of 92 and I generally agree with Ruds. After cleaning out a lot of soaps that I rarely used, or just had grown bored with, I decided to limit myself to the best of the best whenever I could and not waste money on other soaps when possible. The only two I really want to try now are unfortunately damn near impossible to score:  Grooming Dept. & Talbot. I want to see if they can best my #1 Sudsy Soapery. A friend is going to gift me some Wholly Kaw DM soap in the next month when he's in town to try as well.

Yep....there’s a reason Rud ranks NO below WK, GD and a few others....He’s coldly objective...Which I like...

NO might be more appealing to SE users where slickness is more valued than cushioning.

Once my samples of NO are used up...that’s it. Don’t get me wrong....it’s very, very good. Better than most. But...not at the A+ tier. I only get tubs of my personal A+ level...

What the hell is cushion anyway? If there was anything "cushioning" the blade contact to your skin, you wouldn't be cutting any hairs. A highly overrated and frankly, quite stupid metric to rate a shaving soap, IMO.

Cushion? Hmm I ask myself how do I check for it?. I can feel slickness before, during and after.

What the hell is cushion anyway? If there was anything "cushioning" the blade contact to your skin, you wouldn't be cutting any hairs. A highly overrated and frankly, quite stupid metric to rate a shaving soap, IMO.

I don't know whether stupid or not, man, but I sure as hell don't understand what it is. Posting this on reddit yesterday as well: if a razor/blade glides over my skin, cutting whiskers but not harming skin we call it lather having good glide. Now when does the cushion come into play?

What the hell is cushion anyway? If there was anything "cushioning" the blade contact to your skin, you wouldn't be cutting any hairs. A highly overrated and frankly, quite stupid metric to rate a shaving soap, IMO.

I don't whether stupid or not, man, but I sure as hell don't understand what it is. Posting this on reddit yesterday as well: if a razor/blade glides over my skin, cutting whiskers but not harming skin we call it lather having good glide. Now when does the cushion come into play?

I don't know either but I think it might have something to do with how thick the lather paints on to your face, like whether you get the santa beard or a lighter covering. I consider glide and slick to be the same thing - if its slick enough, the blade will glide nicely over my skin. If a lather isn't slick enough it doesn't matter how thick or cushiony it is, you'll just get an uncomfortable shave with more lather. Like with Ogallala shaving soap. You can generate loads of beautiful cushiony lather but you're still going to get a second rate shave, it will smell nice though.