#21

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Central Maine
Z, the virus lives for 9 days outside the body. Just time it and you should be OK. Too, a quaternary disinfectant soak should kill it if the directions are followed. I don't think I'd use bleach on it for obvious reasons but a bleach solution will also kill the virus.
#22

Living on the edge
Or just soak it in slightly hot water mixed with household vinegar for about 10 minutes.
I use this to clean brushes before shipping them.
#23
I appreciate the replies and conveniently I haven't really been buying brushes for a long time. I think your suggestions are sensible.
#24

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Las Vegas, NV, USA
(03-02-2020, 10:16 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: I looked into buying masks, but not just for this but primarily for smoke in indoor ranges. The data I found told me that unless one is infected and is actively spewing snot and mucous, masks were useless since the virus is smaller than what masks filter. True? Basically masks are useful for the infected to help prevent them spreading it and useless to prevent infection when worn by the uninfected?
This is my understanding as well. I have actually seen (in the media) some medical professionals asking people to stop buying masks, as they do not work as a preventative for those who don't have the disease.

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#25

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(03-02-2020, 10:16 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: Phil, I thought it a valid topic for discussion also.

But a question... I looked into buying masks, but not just for this but primarily for smoke in indoor ranges. The data I found told me that unless one is infected and is actively spewing snot and mucous, masks were useless since the virus is smaller than what masks filter. True? Basically masks are useful for the infected to help prevent them spreading it and useless to prevent infection when worn by the uninfected?

Many masks have an easy exhale valve and would be totally useless by the infected. Too, the aluminum strip on masks... I see so many in the videos from the east wearing masks without having fitted the strip to the bridge of the nose... useless and wearing the mask as a form of magic.

I figure I'll buy a gallon of bleach (I bought a gallon of quat' concentrate a month ago just because we were low) and no matter what happens it'll be used. Other than that, should it come to it, just stay home and keep people away and bleach things that must come in.
 
Brian,
You and Matsilainen are correct. Droplets small enough to remain airborne can penetrate the masks.
The mask on a patient will collect the larger spewn fluids. So will the masks worn by health care providers in close proximity to the patient. The health car workers wear masks that do stop 95 or 99% of the virus. These are approved by the CDC but the approval requires a respiratory program to be considered effective. This means trai ing, fit testing and annual reviews. 

Despite that. Any protection is better than none. If I was stuck in quarantine with other folks i would take any measure to prevent exposure. 

We also need to remember the virus is seeking any hospitable mucous membrane. If it can't actively be drawn into your nose, mouth or lungs it will glady settle on your eyes. Hence the safety glasses and face shields in the pictures of health care providers.
Standard proactive measures include the admonishment not to touch your face, rub your eyes nor pick your nose. Though they state that last bit a little more professionally  Smile

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(03-03-2020, 12:40 PM)PhilNH5 Wrote:
(03-02-2020, 10:16 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: Phil, I thought it a valid topic for discussion also.

But a question... I looked into buying masks, but not just for this but primarily for smoke in indoor ranges. The data I found told me that unless one is infected and is actively spewing snot and mucous, masks were useless since the virus is smaller than what masks filter. True? Basically masks are useful for the infected to help prevent them spreading it and useless to prevent infection when worn by the uninfected?

Many masks have an easy exhale valve and would be totally useless by the infected. Too, the aluminum strip on masks... I see so many in the videos from the east wearing masks without having fitted the strip to the bridge of the nose... useless and wearing the mask as a form of magic.

I figure I'll buy a gallon of bleach (I bought a gallon of quat' concentrate a month ago just because we were low) and no matter what happens it'll be used. Other than that, should it come to it, just stay home and keep people away and bleach things that must come in.
 
Brian,
You and Matsilainen are correct. Droplets small enough to remain airborne can penetrate the masks.
The mask on a patient will collect the larger spewn fluids. So will the masks worn by health care providers in close proximity to the patient. The health car workers wear masks that do stop 95 or 99% of the virus. These are approved by the CDC but the approval requires a respiratory program to be considered effective. This means trai ing, fit testing and annual reviews. 

Despite that. Any protection is better than none. If I was stuck in quarantine with other folks i would take any measure to prevent exposure. 

We also need to remember the virus is seeking any hospitable mucous membrane. If it can't actively be drawn into your nose, mouth or lungs it will glady settle on your eyes. Hence the safety glasses and face shields in the pictures of health care providers.
Standard proactive measures include the admonishment not to touch your face, rub your eyes nor pick your nose. Though they state that last bit a little more professionally  Smile
When my son was younger we used to read a series the name of which I can't remember but it was along the lines of Captain Underpants - the main character was Stan from (the planet) Pan in the galaxy of the Big Zipper.  He was a typical nerdy 10 year old or so it seemed - as an alien he was enhanced with a strong computer processor that resided up his nose and activation of his nasal processor was accomplished by inserting a finger up his nostril and digging around in a nose picking kind of way.  To this day if my now 25 year old son or I catch the other with a finger even near a nostril the defence is that we're not picking our nose but rather activating our nasal processor.   Big Grin  I see lots of probable aliens from Pan in their cars at red lights enthusiastically manipulating their nasal processors!

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San Diego, Cal., USA
(03-03-2020, 03:47 PM)Marko Wrote: When my son was younger we used to read a series the name of which I can't remember but it was along the lines of Captain Underpants - the main character was Stan from (the planet) Pan in the galaxy of the Big Zipper.  He was a typical nerdy 10 year old or so it seemed - as an alien he was enhanced with a strong computer processor that resided up his nose and activation of his nasal processor was accomplished by inserting a finger up his nostril and digging around in a nose picking kind of way.  To this day if my now 25 year old son or I catch the other with a finger even near a nostril the defence is that we're not picking our nose but rather activating our nasal processor.   Big Grin  I see lots of probable aliens from Pan in their cars at red lights enthusiastically manipulating their nasal processors!

Mark, this made me laugh out loud.  I can just picture reading a story like this to my kindergarten through 5th grade students, before I retired, and the reactions I would get.  Fond memories. Winking

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#28

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(03-03-2020, 09:45 PM)Freddy Wrote:
(03-03-2020, 03:47 PM)Marko Wrote: When my son was younger we used to read a series the name of which I can't remember but it was along the lines of Captain Underpants - the main character was Stan from (the planet) Pan in the galaxy of the Big Zipper.  He was a typical nerdy 10 year old or so it seemed - as an alien he was enhanced with a strong computer processor that resided up his nose and activation of his nasal processor was accomplished by inserting a finger up his nostril and digging around in a nose picking kind of way.  To this day if my now 25 year old son or I catch the other with a finger even near a nostril the defence is that we're not picking our nose but rather activating our nasal processor.   Big Grin  I see lots of probable aliens from Pan in their cars at red lights enthusiastically manipulating their nasal processors!

Mark, this made me laugh out loud.  I can just picture reading a story like this to my kindergarten through 5th grade students, before I retired, and the reactions I would get.  Fond memories. Winking
The title came to me...Nose Pickers From Outer Space by Gordon Korman
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3791...uter_Space

Good fun, I can recall having some good laughs with my son reading these at bedtime.  Kids or all ages seem to have an appreciation for the absurd  Happy2

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#29

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Central Maine
So we can identify the folks with their fingers in their snot lockers at traffic lights because they'll be the first to get CoVid-19? (sp?) What does one do with that booger encrusted finger?

Sorry, gents. I've seen it and I find it to be a gross out to this day. I remember children who would pick 'em and eat 'em. Yuck!

But I'd find the read humorous no doubt... like watching a train wreck in slow mo'. I'd love to have a video of my face as I read it.

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#30

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San Diego, Cal., USA
ShadowsDad Wrote:So we can identify the folks with their fingers in their snot lockers at traffic lights  because they'll be the first to get CoVid-19? (sp?) What does one do with that booger encrusted finger?

Sorry, gents. I've seen it and I find it to be a gross out to this day. I remember children who would pick 'em and eat 'em. Yuck!

But I'd find the read humorous no doubt... like watching a train wreck in slow mo'. I'd love to have a video of my face as I read it.

Brian, while I have to say I laughed at your post I also have to say TMI! Tongue

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