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(This post was last modified: 10-01-2016, 02:15 PM by steeleshaves.)
After a couple of years of going "hobby wild" anyone else "just shave"? I check this wonderful forum once a week; read a lot less, reply even less these days.

At the end of the day, how much more can a task like shaving advance? Find a favorite razor, some good soaps, aftershaves, blades, and simply shave.

I was a wet shave psycho... YouTube videos, this forum, reviews, and the like. After two years of this, I've come to this conclusion.

You'd have a hard time finding a bad soap or aftershave out there today.... most artesian products perform great

Blades will always be trial and error

Hardware makes little difference. You can get as good a shave out of a vintage Gillette as you can a wolf man ... it's technique not what is in your hand; and much like anything else having the "best" and newest is simply that.... has little to do with performance (annual iPhone geek here) I'm guilty as well.

I love wet shaving but at some point.... just shave.

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#2

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(10-01-2016, 05:10 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: After a couple of years of going "hobby wild" anyone else "just shave"?  I check this wonderful forum once a week; read a lot less, reply even less these days.

At the end of the day, how much more can a task like shaving advance?  Find a favorite razor, some good soaps, aftershaves, blades, and simply shave.

I was a wet shave psycho... YouTube videos, this forum, reviews, and the like.  After two years of this, I've come to this conclusion.

You'd have a hard time finding a bad soap or aftershave out there today.... most artesian products perform great

Blade will alsways be trial and error

Hardware makes little difference.  You can get as good a shave out of a vintage Gillette as you can a wolf man ...  it's technique not what is in your hand and much like anything else having the "best" and newest is simply that.... has little to do with performance (annual iPhone geek here) I'm guilty as well.  

I love wet shaving but at some point.... just shave.

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#3
I wonder how many people are just hoarders running under the cover of collectors haha

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(10-01-2016, 02:06 PM)EastCoastshaver Wrote: I wonder how many people are just hoarders running under the cover of collectors haha
*slowly puts his hand up* Blush I'll admit, that's me. I get obsessed with something and just want to get as much as possible of it until I'm sick of it... sadly that doesn't seem to apply to pop though...


Anyway, ya, at this point I've put a major halt on buying anything shaving related. I have enough, more than actually, to last me probably 2 years. I don't need anything else, hopefully the next thing that will come for a long time is the Rockwell adjustable from their Kickstarter, and that's supposed to be in March lol

I still enjoy shaving now, but I mean I have soaps that I haven't touched in months, which, to me, is wrong, but it's what I end up doing to myself before I realise it. I plan to just use up everything that I have now, soaps, creams, aftershaves, preshaves, blades(with probably another 100 coming from Rockwell with the adjustable razor since it's included) and anything else I might have. More than enough razors, vintage and new, hell, I don't even look at Ebay anymore in case I click the buy button without thinking.


Yes, it's now time to just shave, enjoy the shave and what I have, and take a step away from any sites that I could buy from Smile

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(This post was last modified: 10-01-2016, 05:57 PM by Pete123.)
"Love the shave lose the hobby?"

Crazy talk.  Crazy talk I tell you.  steeleshavesquick question, have you suffered a head injury in the recent past?   Tongue

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#6
(This post was last modified: 10-01-2016, 09:23 PM by grim.)
(10-01-2016, 05:10 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: After a couple of years of going "hobby wild" anyone else "just shave"?  

There are three parts to this hardware, software, and the overall philosophy.  First the Hardware.

Hardware is easily collectible. I got no issue with this. This is what hobbyists do. They don't need to make money on it, many hobbyists - any hobby - collect "stuff" to just collect. And that's fine. Go for it. So when I see 50 brushes and people hunting in auctions or estate sales for any hardware - its all cool.  I would hardly call it an investment (in general) but think its fine.

IMO, one razor is fine. One brush is fine. Everything can be an extension of that. Maybe you got a brush for face lathering and another for bowl lathering but its all cool. And yes, I have ZERO intention of buying any other shaving hardware,. An accessory like a bowl or scuttle - maybe, but they are inexpensive.

The second part of this is consumables, which by definition, one consumes whether they be pre-shave preparation, soaps/creams, or aftershave/cologne.

I suspect the aftershave/cologne with alcohol are preserved forever and that’s fine. If they are not going to go bad, so be it. Collect away. OTH, soaps and creams, IMO – IN MY OPINION – it’s a bit much to have more than one can use in say five years. STUFF HAPPENS.  Creams can harden. Scents can be dissipating, and although I don’t know for a fact, I presume tallow can rot.  I can believe hard soaps last longer.

Classic elite products are well known. The vast majority of consumers who actually use the products will not argue that products like ADP, ABC, Nuavia, SMN, C&S, etc are not elite products. The same vast majority won’t argue about others like CF,  XPEC, the Three Ts, Proraso, Tabac and a few others in their respective price ranges. If some new gold standard appears, we’ll know without having to try everything. Crowd sourcing is a marvelous thing. While some artisan products get some play in virtual circles, I think the last product that was universally praised about in the entire virtual sphere is Nuavia.

IMO 5 or 6 is ideal. 10 – 12 is a stretch. I can see the point of having variety but once you get beyond a dozen, you’re now pushing it into obsession. A dozen represents maybe a $250 - $500 investment depending upon the product. 100 represents a MAGNITUDE greater and thousands of dollars of product one might never be able to use. Of course, if that’s how one wants to spend disposable income, so be it. But I doubt that is for the average person who just wants to get a job done, the job being … as you indicate.  Once I use up some stuff, it will not be replaced and I will reduce down to about 6, spread between winter and summer stuff.

The last part is the philosophical part and perhaps what you were getting at.   At the end of the day, how much more can a task like shaving advance?

Some might not like this answer but it is what it is. I suspect that the vast majority of men view shaving as a tedious, mundane waste of time. It’s just something that needs to be done – do it and be done with it. People got schedules to meet, places to go. Now if the task itself can be made more pleasant, who wouldn’t like that? But to glorify it?  Huh  Not so much. If you ask a cross section of ALL men who shave, I believe the majority will think it a bit tedious. Who looks forward to scraping a sharp object across their face, hoping you don’t bleed? Then splashing alcohol on it to sting. Sounds masochistic to me. Undecided

I’ve thought about this before and wondered if our grandfathers or great grandfathers would sit around talking about all this stuff because it is a bit weird. You talk about watching youtube and the like. Do you think they all got around the local bar and shot the breeze discussing different blades and splashes? Uh NO. Rolleyes

Being alive prior to when cartridges and disposables predominated, I can assure you NOBODY sat around talking about what blade to buy or soap to use. Or I can rephrase, I can never remember anyone ever discussing the subject – ever. You bought whatever was in the store. Period.

At the Holiday season, you might splurge on some Old Spice packaged in a holiday theme at a department store or get a fancy Avon bottle as a gift or some other aftershave/ cologne – maybe English Leather, Hai Karate, or other products one might not normally buy beyond what was bought at the grocery store. I can even remember Soap on a Rope! But, in general, you didn’t have a real conversation with "the guys over a beer" and talk about brushes, blades, and soap. It just didn't happen. And I find the youtube videos strange. I understand a generation never learned how to shave. So they had to be taught by Mantic and others. OK, its educational.

So yeah, just shave, get the task done. Once you find what you like – you’re good. No need to buy anything else other than to replace what is consumed.

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#7
Fantastic post grim thank you.

I agree and can relate.

When I first started DE wet shaving back in the early 70s, I had a couple of brushes, a couple of soaps, and two or three Gillette razors. They weren't so vintage then Smile

I would experiment with various pre and post shave routines, but nothing extravagant, and I picked up a few more razors and brushes along the way, but just a handful. Never thought about the hobby aspect of it, but I would always look at the shaving departments of the better pharmacies-Crabtree, Caswells. I had my eye on a Tiffany's shaving brush for a long time, but could never bring myself to spend that much on a brush. Bad move!

Back about 8 years ago, I started shaving with some more modern razors and a make-your-own shaving mix that was basically unscented. Got a bigger brush and some feather blades, and shaved with that set up almost exclusively for years, getting very good shaves. Still never thought of the hobby aspect, as it was all about the shave for me. When the components of that method of shaving became unavailable, I started getting some of the modern soaps and razors. I went on an absolute tear,  and have more hardware and software than I can use in many years. I justify the soaps to myself because I was trying many different brands to see which ones I liked. Of course, I had to get the high-end soaps as well to see for myself if there was a difference. With very few exceptions, they're all darned good, and some of the more modestly priced soaps flat-out outperform even the highest-end soaps. Razors? No excuse. I acquired because I like to display them and look at them. Started with DEs, moved into SEs, and then into (now) vintage Gillettes, Gems and Schicks.

Same with brushes.

It may sound strange, but I love having the gear. I love walking into the bathroom and seeing all of those gleaming stainless razors on display, love looking at what my better half calls the 'brush farm', love seeing the display of old-school aftershaves, the Shulton Old Spice, the Clubman. Makes me nostalgic, reminds me of my father,  grandfather, and great grandfather. Are they necessary? Of course not.

While I feel it's a bit of an extravagance spent on an admittedly eccentric hobby acquiring gear; nonetheless, it makes me smile inside every time I look at the razors and brushes, and connects me to generations past.

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All the best,

Michael P
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I really enjoy 'just shaving', but I can also appreciate folks wanting to share new insights, ideas, and offerings, whatever they may be.
I only see it as a desire to connect to one another in a friendly way, if it is done respectfully. Furthermore, there is also the joy of helping new folks that have inquiries. Shy

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(10-02-2016, 04:21 AM)celestino Wrote: I really enjoy 'just shaving', but I can also appreciate folks wanting to share new insights, ideas, and offerings, whatever they may be.
I only see it as a desire to connect to one another in a friendly way, if it is done respectfully. Furthermore, there is also the joy of helping new folks that have inquiries.  Shy

Ditto Big Grin
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(10-01-2016, 05:10 AM)steeleshaves Wrote: After a couple of years of going "hobby wild" anyone else "just shave"?  I check this wonderful forum once a week; read a lot less, reply even less these days.

At the end of the day, how much more can a task like shaving advance?  Find a favorite razor, some good soaps, aftershaves, blades, and simply shave.

Thankfully, I'm not there yet.  

I'm too new at this to "just shave".    I have not even explored straights or SE razors (I have used an injector a couple of times)...and I only have one brush.  

I still plan my shaves ahead of time and shave in the afternoon because I can take my time and enjoy the experience.  

I still love love all my soaps and my aftershaves.   Since I bought (purposefully) so many of them, it takes many shaves to use the same product again, so I am not close to getting tired of any of the scents.  


Let the good times roll while they last...before shaving becomes a routine again.

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