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#11

Merchant
Millbrae - CA
(10-13-2019, 09:29 PM)Erchy Wrote: Why did you put whey protein in there??




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Proteinaceous materials have a great deal of advantages in cosmetic products like Aion/Nai. I also run many of the ingredients through my fancy homogenizer Smile which definitely effect the protein texture and its ability to penetrate the skin. Here are somethings I learnt form the cosmetic and dermatology papers I have been reading.

Contain amino acids
Quickly/readily bind to the stratum corneum
Some proteins promote other proteins proliferation - There are relationships and dependencies between Keratin and Collagen (which are types of proteins) 
Substantive film-former, Gives the lather increased density; protein is polymeric!



Here is a good paper on the subject (behind a paywall)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...1X08000734

I hope this answers your question.

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#12
(10-13-2019, 09:50 PM)GroomingDept Wrote:
(10-13-2019, 09:29 PM)Erchy Wrote: Why did you put whey protein in there??




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Proteinaceous materials have a great deal of advantages in cosmetic products like Aion/Nai. I also run many of the ingredients through my fancy homogenizer Smile which definitely effect the protein texture and its ability to penetrate the skin. Here are somethings I learnt form the cosmetic and dermatology papers I have been reading.

Contain amino acids
Quickly/readily bind to the stratum corneum
Some proteins promote other proteins proliferation - There are relationships and dependencies between Keratin and Collagen (which are types of proteins) 
Substantive film-former, Gives the lather increased density; protein is polymeric!



Here is a good paper on the subject (behind a paywall)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...1X08000734

I hope this answers your question.


Thanks!

I think i will stick to whey protein for my weight lifting




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#13

Merchant
Millbrae - CA
(10-13-2019, 09:55 PM)Erchy Wrote:
(10-13-2019, 09:50 PM)GroomingDept Wrote:
(10-13-2019, 09:29 PM)Erchy Wrote: Why did you put whey protein in there??




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Proteinaceous materials have a great deal of advantages in cosmetic products like Aion/Nai. I also run many of the ingredients through my fancy homogenizer Smile which definitely effect the protein texture and its ability to penetrate the skin. Here are somethings I learnt form the cosmetic and dermatology papers I have been reading.

Contain amino acids
Quickly/readily bind to the stratum corneum
Some proteins promote other proteins proliferation - There are relationships and dependencies between Keratin and Collagen (which are types of proteins) 
Substantive film-former, Gives the lather increased density; protein is polymeric!



Here is a good paper on the subject (behind a paywall)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...1X08000734

I hope this answers your question.


Thanks!

I think i will stick to whey protein for my weight lifting




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There is nothing wrong with your decision Smile This soap is not for everyone. Partially this soap is to show what's possible.

This proteins I'm using now (upgrades in the future will bring additional proteins) are manufactured very differently from edible versions.

These protein derivatives are prepared by subjecting animal or vegetable proteins to enzymatic (e.g., papain hydrolysis) or other chemical hydrolyses (e.g., acid or steam hydrolysis). The resulting polypeptide-, oligopepetide-, and peptide-containing products are used as conditioning agents in hair and skin products. Methods used to manufacture protein hydrolysates typically yield broad molecular weight distributions of peptides, 500-30,000 daltons (Da).

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#14
Does whey=gluten? Will I be absorbing small amounts of gluten into my face?


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#15

Merchant
Millbrae - CA
(10-14-2019, 12:07 AM)Royce Wrote: Does whey=gluten? Will I be absorbing small amounts of gluten into my face?


~Royce

Hi Royce 

The whey is gluten free! I have Celiac. I make sure everything I touch is gluten free Smile

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#16
(10-14-2019, 12:10 AM)GroomingDept Wrote:
(10-14-2019, 12:07 AM)Royce Wrote: Does whey=gluten? Will I be absorbing small amounts of gluten into my face?


~Royce

Hi Royce 

The whey is gluten free! I have Celiac. I make sure everything I touch is gluten free Smile





~Royce
#17
Aion sold out in minutes!! Luckily I have quick thumbs.
#18

Member
Illinois
I thought all top tier soaps were changing to 5oz / $24 per tub? Why is this still 4oz / $32 per tub?
#19

Merchant
Millbrae - CA
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2019, 08:26 PM by GroomingDept.)
(10-22-2019, 08:14 PM)muzichead Wrote: I thought all top tier soaps were changing to 5oz / $24 per tub? Why is this still 4oz / $32 per tub?


Hi muzichead 

I mentioned in the mailing-list post that Aion/Nai is a demonstration release of what's possible (for me). I'm not sure I want to sell this soap all the time. It takes 3 days, 5 hours each day to make it. It's not just soap, and I just don't pour other things with it! It's quite elaborate to make, some of the ingredients are porhibitly expensive since I can't yet acquire them in large quantites at wholesale prices. It's a very special release. 

some ingredients from Nai will be incorporated to the top tier formula, the price for those soaps will stay at $24 per 5oz.

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#20

Member
Northern NJ
I’m excited for everyone who got in on this release to find out their thoughts! While I didn’t purchase any I look forward to some of the ingredients making their way to my favorite bases ( hopefully unscented). Mohammad thanks again for always pushing the envelope!

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