#1
I have both, love both, I'd like to know......


which to you find more Agressive and which gives the better shave
#2
That's a hard one. Used to its fullest the R41 can be either aggressive or not. The Ikon Tech just is aggressive. It was designed to be just that, I think Greg calls it a 4 out of 5.

The R41 (2013 version) can actually be a very reasonable and mild shaver. Taking your angle from the cap creates just this, in fact it can give a great daily shave this way. I think the challenge and why the R41 has developed its reputation is the faux open comb design with the curves at the bottom. The roll makes it deceptive and I think many roll too far into the base of the comb, which really ratchets up the aggression on that razor. All the other usual caveats apply -- pressure, lather, prep, etc.

They both used within the parameters of what makes them different give a great shave.

If there is any confusion around the Ikon Tech it's comparing it to its vintage sound alike. A Gillette Tech it isn't. The Gillette you can literally shave with half asleep and not hurt yourself and achieve a great three pass shave. I wouldn't suggest the same approach with the Ikon.

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Jay, owner of Delta Echo Razor Works.
#3
So for the SOTD I revisited the Ikon Tech, mostly because I was thinking about your question. I still say it's a great razor and I love it. Treated right I don't think it's overly aggressive, but really pay attention to how you use it. To me it functions much like a cattle scoop on the front of an old train. The leading edge is basically a wedge. Also sharp blade vs. not as sharp makes a huge difference in the razor.

For the ultimate question of which gives a better shave? I still think they are equal but different. If I had to pick I might personally give a slight nudge to the Ikon.

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Jay, owner of Delta Echo Razor Works.
#4
I own both and the Tech is without a doubt more aggressive.

I need more time with the Tech, but so far the R41 give me a better shave.
#5

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Marin County, CA
I have both the Tech and the R41 (have used both the '11 and '13). My experience is that the Tech seemed overwhelmingly more aggressive initially, but a much lighter touch, steeper angle and slickest lather I could find (actually, the Nancy Boy doesn't lather a lot, but what it does do is protect and moisture) collectively made this a much coveted instrument for me. Not a daily driver perhaps, but I take it out for a drive about once a week. 

In terms of overall efficiency, to me, both the R41 and Tech are pretty much two-pass shaves for BBS or DFS+. 


Todd R.
#6
(08-21-2015, 06:02 PM)Delta Echo Razor Works Wrote: So for the SOTD I revisited the Ikon Tech, mostly because I was thinking about your question.  I still say it's a great razor and I love it.  Treated right I don't think it's overly aggressive, but really pay attention to how you use it.  To me it functions much like a cattle scoop on the front of an old train.  The leading edge is basically a wedge.  Also sharp blade vs. not as sharp makes a huge difference in the razor.

For the ultimate question of which gives a better shave?  I still think they are equal but different.  If I had to pick I might personally give a slight nudge to the Ikon.

I agree with you in either of these razors a the sharper the blade the better.  Love the cattle scoop analogy, also very close to spot on.
#7
(08-21-2015, 06:02 PM)Delta Echo Razor Works Wrote: So for the SOTD I revisited the Ikon Tech, mostly because I was thinking about your question.  I still say it's a great razor and I love it.  Treated right I don't think it's overly aggressive, but really pay attention to how you use it.  To me it functions much like a cattle scoop on the front of an old train.  The leading edge is basically a wedge.  Also sharp blade vs. not as sharp makes a huge difference in the razor.

For the ultimate question of which gives a better shave?  I still think they are equal but different.  If I had to pick I might personally give a slight nudge to the Ikon.

So riddle me this, do you think A.  Its the most Agressive DE today?  I personally do even more so than the 11 r41.  B.  Is it possible to make a more aggressive DE than this one without it being shave terrible, I'm not sure it is.  Love to know your thoughts
#8
(08-27-2015, 02:54 AM)steeleshaves Wrote:
(08-21-2015, 06:02 PM)Delta Echo Razor Works Wrote: So for the SOTD I revisited the Ikon Tech, mostly because I was thinking about your question.  I still say it's a great razor and I love it.  Treated right I don't think it's overly aggressive, but really pay attention to how you use it.  To me it functions much like a cattle scoop on the front of an old train.  The leading edge is basically a wedge.  Also sharp blade vs. not as sharp makes a huge difference in the razor.

For the ultimate question of which gives a better shave?  I still think they are equal but different.  If I had to pick I might personally give a slight nudge to the Ikon.

So riddle me this, do you think A.  Its the most Agressive DE today?  I personally do even more so than the 11 r41.  B.  Is it possible to make a more aggressive DE than this one without it being shave terrible, I'm not sure it is.  Love to know your thoughts
Here's my comparison of the IS Tech and R41: http://damnfineshave.com/showthread.php?tid=1310

For me the IS Tech outperforms the R41 in every aspect except face feel (and the Spitfire R41 is still a gorgeous thing).

And what's more aggressive than the IS Tech? The devette!

If you haven't yet tried a devette, I urge you to give it a go Smile

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#9
The Tech is more aggressive than the R41 and Fatip. I used it today for the first time, this razor needs no pressure at all. It's by far the most efficient razor I've used.


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