#21

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South Saint Louis, MO
Thanks guys. It certainly won't be a traditional bay rum, but once I'm going to try to order some scent samples tonight. Once I get them in and sniff them, I'll have a better idea and could give everyone a rough idea of what to expect. I've got a six-day weekend coming up so hopefully it'll get here soon so I can have a few days to tinker before the new scent drops, but I have some ideas of how to do have the rum feeling without actually smelling like rum.

Anyway, I'll definitely try to paint as accurate picture as possible once the scent idea starts coming together.
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#22
(This post was last modified: 09-28-2016, 03:48 AM by Marko.)
(09-28-2016, 12:47 AM)Asafiev Wrote: A Bay Rum with no Rum?  I am a maybe, I agree that we should let Shawn do his thing and see what comes of it.  Thanks Marko / Shawn!

I'm the Bay Rum fan, and Shawn isn't that keen on Bay Rum so we were able to come to an understanding which is why I referred to it as a "bay inspired scent" in the first post of the thread. I think we're so used to seeing the word "rum" follow "bay" that our brains just register both words Bay Rum even when its not really there. In any case, I have full confidence in Shawn's amazing creativity. No pressure Shawn Big Grin
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#23

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Ohio
Not to be stupid (ok, yeah I am!), but what is a "bay" scent? I know what bay rum smells like. Pretty sure I don't know what "bay" smells like.
#24

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Austin, TX
Of course I'm in... I'm that two bottle guy that Marko mentioned Smile
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#25
(This post was last modified: 09-28-2016, 03:16 PM by Marko.)
(09-28-2016, 12:01 PM)racerx1 Wrote: Not to be stupid (ok, yeah I am!), but what is a "bay" scent?  I know what bay rum smells like.  Pretty sure I don't know what "bay" smells like.

I'm not a scent expert and I lack the vocabulary to properly describe the smell of bay, I guess the easiest way for me to describe it is that it smells like bay rum without the rum. I don't pick up much (any?) rum from most bay rum aftershaves and what you smell is mainly the bay and sometimes spices. In most cases I don't think any rum is actually used and calling it bay rum is just a tip of the hat to that fragrance family and style of aftershave that has West Indian Bay in it and can trace its origins to the seafaring days in and around the Caribbean when the stuff actually was made with rum as the source of alcohol. You can find recipes on the web that involve soaking bay leaves in rum with some other ingredients but I believe most commercial formulas use some form of alcohol other than rum.

I don't know if this helped - short answer is, if you know what bay rum smells like, you know what bay smells like.
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#26

Merchant
South Saint Louis, MO
I would say that bay is in the same family as clove and allspice, but a little more herbal and medicinal. Definitely a spicy scent, I'm just trying to decide the best way to round it out. Have a couple of ideas. Just didn't want to go the rum route. Never been a fan of it. If I'm going to drink something brown, it's going to be whiskey every time. Or a stout. But definitely not rum. Same goes for the clear. Give me gin.
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#27

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Ohio
(09-28-2016, 03:15 PM)Marko Wrote:
(09-28-2016, 12:01 PM)racerx1 Wrote: Not to be stupid (ok, yeah I am!), but what is a "bay" scent?  I know what bay rum smells like.  Pretty sure I don't know what "bay" smells like.

I'm not a scent expert and I lack the vocabulary to properly describe the smell of bay, I guess the easiest way for me to describe it is that it smells like bay rum without the rum.  I don't pick up much (any?) rum from most bay rum aftershaves and what you smell is mainly the bay and sometimes spices.  In most cases I don't think any rum is actually used and calling it bay rum is just a tip of the hat to that fragrance family and style of aftershave that has West Indian Bay in it and can trace its origins to the seafaring days in and around the Caribbean when the stuff actually was made with rum as the source of alcohol.  You can find recipes on the web that involve soaking bay leaves in rum with some other ingredients but I believe most commercial formulas use some form of alcohol other than rum.  

I don't know if this helped - short answer is, if you know what bay rum smells like, you know what bay smells like.
Mark

So -- the "Shirley Temple" of Bay Rums then. Count me in as a "maybe".
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#28

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Austin, TX
(09-28-2016, 03:50 PM)hawns Wrote: I would say that bay is in the same family as clove and allspice, but a little more herbal and medicinal. Definitely a spicy scent, I'm just trying to decide the best way to round it out. Have a couple of ideas. Just didn't want to go the rum route. Never been a fan of it. If I'm going to drink something brown, it's going to be whiskey every time. Or a stout. But definitely not rum. Same goes for the clear. Give me gin.

I don't drink a lot of rum myself - don't like umbrellas Smile

Had a spot of bourbon rocks last night and the idea of a "Prairie Bay" of some sort is just what the Dr. ordered.
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#29

Merchant
South Saint Louis, MO
I'm with you, kwsher. If there's an umbrella, I'm not interested. Unless it's that scene from The Jerk.

Also, just ordered some scents. I do think that "prairie bay" could end up being a pretty apropos description for what I'm starting to think, but I don't want to say too much before the scents get here.
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(09-28-2016, 06:13 PM)kwsher Wrote:
(09-28-2016, 03:50 PM)hawns Wrote: I would say that bay is in the same family as clove and allspice, but a little more herbal and medicinal. Definitely a spicy scent, I'm just trying to decide the best way to round it out. Have a couple of ideas. Just didn't want to go the rum route. Never been a fan of it. If I'm going to drink something brown, it's going to be whiskey every time. Or a stout. But definitely not rum. Same goes for the clear. Give me gin.

I don't drink a lot of rum myself - don't like umbrellas Smile

Had a spot of bourbon rocks last night and the idea of a "Prairie Bay" of some sort is just what the Dr. ordered.

Bourbon is good. Honestly I'm surprised I can even say the word rum without vomiting. As a tender teen some of my first exposure to alcohol was with a neighbour kid who's dad, a serious boozer as it turned out, kept a larder in his basement with several dozen gallon jugs of Lahani Hawaiian rum. I guess he liked the umbrellas. In any case we would pour off a couple of mickeys of the stuff and take it neat, stumble around and finish off the evening by bringing up our stomach contents. Good times. I probably didn't go near rum of any kind for 30 years but now I don't mind a hot rum toddy on a winter's night or some nice, well aged sipping rum (yes I'm back to drinking it straight) on a cube of ice.

Back to the subject at hand, however, I am confident that hawns ' creative impulses will come up with something truly epic. Again Shawn, no pressureBig Grin

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