(05-19-2020, 04:12 PM)HighSpeed Wrote: (05-19-2020, 12:12 PM)vtmax Wrote: Very impressive soap base. Kaizen is denser than Kairos but not as quick to lather. The scent is a bit strong for me but I expect that from most US soap cookers. Over marketing with the naked label but the base is a great one.
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I am not sure what prompted the comparison with Kairos in this thread, but since you brought it up ...
IMO both soap bases offer great protection and PSF, but my lathering experience is different from yours. I have had only one shave with Kaizen, so I need to "hedge my bets" a bit. That said, building lather for my one and only Kaizen shave was quicker and easier than for any of my six Kairos shaves, and noticeably so. The resulting Kaizen lather was every bit as good too.
I have not yet used Kaizen, but I expect it to be superb. I missed the first release.
As for lathering Kairos, I bowl lather and can produce a wonderful lather with about 15 seconds loading time and 30-35 seconds lathering time using my standard lathering method. I have some soft soaps that will load quicker than Kairos, but I have yet to find a soap that will lather is less than 30 seconds.
The structure of the Kairos lather is different than Kaisen. Ruds Shaves describes Kaisen like marshmallow fluff. He also uses that same description for Wholly Kaw Siero. Ruds describes Kairos like sour cream. Thus, it you expect Kairos to produce a fluffy head of lather, you might be disappointed.