#11

Doctor Strange of Wetshaving
Forio d'Ischia, Naples, Italy
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2020, 06:50 PM by ischiapp.)
After editing the page, now the site writes the gap at 0,71mm.
Exactly as Merkur 34C, a little less than Muehle R89 / Edwin Jagger DE89. (76mm)

Geometry is similar to Cobbled chinese head, as Maggard V3A.
That was my champion for a long time, and still one of my favs.
Differences of the topcap in arch and blade reveal / exposure make It more effective.
But with a good comfort.

Anyway just with the right technique.
Not the best point where to start wetshaving for a newbie.

Never used Outlaw, but with that handle, I think It'd be a little aggressive.
I feel something in between Edwin Jagger 3ONE6 SS and Muehle Rocca.
More on the first, as behavior.
Not as price.

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#12
(05-14-2020, 06:19 PM)ischiapp Wrote: After editing the page, now the site writes the gap at 0,71mm.
Exactly as Merkur 34C, a little less than Muehle R89 / Edwin Jagger DE89. (76mm)

Geometry is similar to Cobbled chinese head, as Maggard V3A.
That was my champion for a long time, and still one of my favs.
Differences of the topcap in arch and blade reveal / exposure make It more effective.
But with a good comfort.

Anyway just with the right technique.
Not the best point where to start wetshaving for a newbie.

Never used Outlaw, but with that handle, I think I'd be a little aggressive.
I feel something in between Edwin Jagger 3ONE6 SS and Muehle Rocca.
More on the first, as behavior.
Not as price.

You have a curious amount of opinion about a razor you say you haven't used.

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#13

Doctor Strange of Wetshaving
Forio d'Ischia, Naples, Italy
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2020, 06:51 PM by ischiapp.)
(05-14-2020, 06:41 PM)jmudrick Wrote: You have a curious amount of opinion about a razor you say you haven't used.
Yes, you're right.
But after using hundreds of different combination (I'm like a cat ... very curious!!), I've some experiece.
I know in deep all the other razors I've spoken about.
In addition, geometry and physics is the base of the behavior of a razor.
No matters the brand, just the specs.
From these, I've strong feeling too.

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#14
(05-14-2020, 06:49 PM)ischiapp Wrote:
(05-14-2020, 06:41 PM)jmudrick Wrote: You have a curious amount of opinion about a razor you say you haven't used.
Yes, you're right.
But after using hundreds of different combination (I'm like a cat ... very curious!!), I've some experiece.
I know in deep all the other razors I've spoken about.
In addition, geometry and physics is the base of the behavior of a razor.
No matters the brand, just the specs.
From these, I've strong feeling too.
The most important spec is exposure about which nothing has been indicated.

Respectfully i take reviews from actual users with a huge grain of salt. Your leaps I can only politely describe as not terribly useful.

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#15
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2020, 07:09 PM by txiab.)
So, I got my first shave in this morning. I used an Astra SP Platimum blade (third shave with this blade) in the razor and Wickham 1912 shave soap.

No nicks or irritation. As I was shaving I kept thinking of the Feather AS-D2. Maybe it is that the weight and heads feel similar on the face? Not sure. I really like the handle on this razor. It has great grip and is a nice width, length, and weight. The head is nimble as far as getting under the nose or hitting trouble spots on my face.

It has mild blade feel, but cuts very easily. I think the razor strikes a nice balance between efficient and mild. It doesn't have a lot of blade feel. Often razors with little blade feel tend to not cut very well. But this wasn't the case with the Alpha razor. It really does a nice job removing hair, which is what a razor is all about. It is not an aggressive razor, but I also wouldn't describe it as overly mild. It's somewhere right in the middle (I'm struggling to explain this well). It is less aggressive than my Paradigm, Blackbird, Carbon, or Smart Helix, but more aggressive than the Merkur 34C or my TI or SS Timeless razors.

The one stand out thing I really noticed was the feedback. You can really hear this razor as it cuts.

Overall a great smooth shave. I'm looking forward to getting more time in with the razor.

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#16
(05-14-2020, 07:03 PM)txiab Wrote: So, I got my first shave in this morning. I used an Astra SP Platimum blade (third shave with this blade) in the razor and Wickham 1912 shave soap.

No nicks or irritation. As I was shaving I kept thinking of the Feather AS-D2. Maybe it is that the weight and heads feel similar on the face? Not sure. I really like the handle on this razor. It has great grip and is a nice width, length, and weight. The head is nimble as far as getting under the nose or hitting trouble spots on my face.

It has mild blade feel, but cuts very easily. I think the razor strikes a nice balance between efficient and mild. It doesn't have a lot of blade feel. Often razors with little blade feel tend to not cut very well. But this wasn't the case with the Alpha razor. It really does a nice job removing hair, which is what a razor is all about. It is not an aggressive razor, but I also wouldn't describe it as overly mild. It's somewhere right in the middle (I'm struggling to explain this well). It is less aggressive than my Paradigm, Blackbird, Carbon, or Smart Helix, but more aggressive than the Merkur 34C or my TI or SS Timeless razors.

The one stand out thing I really noticed was the feedback. You can really hear this razor as it cuts.

Overall a great smooth shave. I'm looking forward to getting more time in with the razor.

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Thanks for the observations! I'm going to bring out my V3A and remind myself how it works

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#17

Doctor Strange of Wetshaving
Forio d'Ischia, Naples, Italy
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2020, 08:31 PM by ischiapp.)
(05-14-2020, 06:55 PM)jmudrick Wrote: Your leaps I can only politely describe as not terribly useful.
(05-14-2020, 07:24 PM)jmudrick Wrote: I'm going to bring out my V3A and remind myself how it works
In the end you jumped there ...

BTW, exposure tell me just the feedback of the blade.
For me, more useful is to watch out the arch of the topcap and how it bends the blade.
And how much it covers the blade, with a little reveal.
High arch, low reveal, can have a positive exposure but being absolutely effective and mild.
My fav type of DE razor.

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#18
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2020, 08:59 PM by jmudrick.)
(05-14-2020, 08:30 PM)ischiapp Wrote:
(05-14-2020, 06:55 PM)jmudrick Wrote: Your leaps I can only politely describe as not terribly useful.
(05-14-2020, 07:24 PM)jmudrick Wrote: I'm going to bring out my V3A and remind myself how it works
In the end you jumped there ...



Reminding myself for my own curiosity based on use is not the same as recommending to others based on one's imagination.

You have your opinion about exposure, it differs from mine.

I agree that caps make a big difference. The standard Razorock cap more resembles the the Outlaw than the Maggard. The additional bend would indeed reduce exposure and make it a milder shaver.

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#19

Doctor Strange of Wetshaving
Forio d'Ischia, Naples, Italy
(05-14-2020, 07:03 PM)txiab Wrote: You can really hear this razor as it cuts.
This shows clearly the (low) point of stiffness as of the blade clamping.

(05-14-2020, 08:46 PM)jmudrick Wrote: You have your opinion about exposure, it differs from mine.
This is the best part of sharing.
BTW, as above, geometry can easily predict the dynamics.

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#20

Alpha Shaving
(This post was last modified: 05-15-2020, 03:17 PM by Vlasta.)
(05-14-2020, 09:46 AM)surfboat Wrote: alpha aimed for something just below the R41 with this razor. A Milder plate is also in the works. Don't know how long it is good for but "ATG10" discount code.

(05-14-2020, 06:55 PM)jmudrick Wrote:
(05-14-2020, 06:49 PM)ischiapp Wrote:
(05-14-2020, 06:41 PM)jmudrick Wrote: You have a curious amount of opinion about a razor you say you haven't used.
Yes, you're right.
But after using hundreds of different combination (I'm like a cat ... very curious!!), I've some experiece.
I know in deep all the other razors I've spoken about.
In addition, geometry and physics is the base of the behavior of a razor.
No matters the brand, just the specs.
From these, I've strong feeling too.
The most important spec is exposure about which nothing has been indicated.

Respectfully i take reviews from actual users with a huge grain of salt. Your leaps I can only politely describe as not terribly useful.

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The exposure is a fanny hair positive - and I mean a fine fanny hair - about 0.05mm with some blades.


P.S. - I forgot this is a USA based forum - to us Brits a "fanny" is at the front of the body - not the back. Work it out...

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