Da Vinci might not be heard about as much on the forums, but it's every bit the equal of Shavemac and Thater. Excellent German quality. Haven't seen a brush the Germans do wrong. I'd go as far to say as the 3-band Silvertip of Da Vinci is better than Thater's. 2-band has always been Thater's bread and butter, but that's just my opinion.
Joe