#51

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(12-15-2017, 05:33 PM)BPman Wrote:
(12-07-2017, 06:02 AM)Ryan @ Tallow + Steel Wrote:
(12-05-2017, 02:19 PM)wyze0ne Wrote: Honestly, what is the benefit of that? As long as it doesn't irritate your skin (which natural essential oils can do) it's not dangerous to use. To me it seems like it's just a marketing ploy to tack on another $10 to every soap they sell. Just my opinion though...

1. Essential oils smell better. EO’s contain lots of different compounds - they are more complex, have more depth, and are more natural smelling. A scent like Boreal could never be created with synthetics.

2. Often less irritating on the skin.

3. Many people like the idea that their product is scented with oils actually distilled from nature - not created in a lab. You may not care, but we do.

And yes our products are more expensive because of it. For example, we pay $70 / oz for wild Rose oil from Morocco, and $200 / oz for million-year-old fossilized Amber oil from the Himalayas. Synthetic Rose oil can be found for $2 / oz and synthetic amber for $1 / oz.  Our profit margins are probably equal to most artisans.

Cheers


A little reality:


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/27/style/...fume_.html

I doubt anyone in the traditional wet shaving world is using any synthetics worth $1,200. an oz. Like anything you're going to have a range of quality whether you're talking synthetics or EOs. And even if the bias is "irrational", who said consumers are rational? If you're trying to run a business do you want to be constantly fighting the irrational biases of your customers to encourage them to buy your products or do you give them what they want? The entire supplement industry is based on that. The bias, irrational or not, in the wet shaving world is that EOs are superior to synthetics so if thats your market then your choice should be clear. The NY Times article while interesting, is written as an opinion piece. What I take from it is that not all synthetics are cheap and you can get allergic reactions from EOs too, maybe even more likely. Thanks for posting it though, I did find it interesting and helpful.

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#52
(12-15-2017, 07:33 PM)Marko Wrote: ...If you're trying to run a business do you want to be constantly fighting the irrational biases of your customers to encourage them to buy your products or do you give them what they want?  The entire supplement industry is based on that...


https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi...ts/392201/

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Secretary Ramsey put his foot into it yesterday . . . in the course of his remarks he said that California “needs water and better society.”  “So does h-ll,” yelled someone in the crowd.  
#53

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(12-17-2017, 07:19 AM)BPman Wrote:
(12-15-2017, 07:33 PM)Marko Wrote: ...If you're trying to run a business do you want to be constantly fighting the irrational biases of your customers to encourage them to buy your products or do you give them what they want?  The entire supplement industry is based on that...


https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi...ts/392201/

Thanks for the great article. I find it all the more interesting because I was recently informed that my family doctor was closing down his practice and that I would have to find a new doctor. He had decided to focus all of his attention on the 3 or 4 aesthetics clinics he has been operating for a number of years. It had got harder and harder to get in to see him because he was only doctoring 3 days a week and he had told me that while he enjoyed his medical practice, 90% of his income came from his aesthetics clinics. I get it, so now instead of checking my prostate he's injecting botox into women's faces among a host of other "beautifying" treatments.

Have you checked out this website? It deals with all the medical pseudoscience.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org
#54
(12-17-2017, 07:31 PM)Marko Wrote: Thanks for the great article.  I find it all the more interesting because I was recently informed that my family doctor was closing down his practice and that I would have to find a new doctor.  He had decided to focus all of his attention on the 3 or 4 aesthetics clinics he has been operating for a number of years.  It had got harder and harder to get in to see him because he was only doctoring 3 days a week and he had told me that while he enjoyed his medical practice, 90% of his income came from his aesthetics clinics. I get it, so now instead of checking my prostate he's injecting botox into women's faces among a host of other "beautifying" treatments...


Back in the early 2000's I had to visit a plastic surgeon for a bullet fragment scar on my nose. He did a fantastic job I might add. Wink As he was an interesting fella we chatted about his business whereas he told me that he did not do "vanity" surgeries, but only those involving accidents & disease. His reasoning was that he HAD done that before and spent half his time in court with female clients upset and suing him because they did not become Miss Universe. Rolleyes He confided in me that easily over 90% of of the people seeking vanity surgeries needed therapy for their self esteem rather than surgery.

As regards women, I have known several when I lived abroad who had had "boob jobs". Almost all were vain, shallow & gold diggers. To make matters even worse their boobs were hard. Big Grin Wink

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Secretary Ramsey put his foot into it yesterday . . . in the course of his remarks he said that California “needs water and better society.”  “So does h-ll,” yelled someone in the crowd.  
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(This post was last modified: 12-19-2017, 05:54 AM by Marko.)
(12-18-2017, 09:02 PM)BPman Wrote:
(12-17-2017, 07:31 PM)Marko Wrote: Thanks for the great article.  I find it all the more interesting because I was recently informed that my family doctor was closing down his practice and that I would have to find a new doctor.  He had decided to focus all of his attention on the 3 or 4 aesthetics clinics he has been operating for a number of years.  It had got harder and harder to get in to see him because he was only doctoring 3 days a week and he had told me that while he enjoyed his medical practice, 90% of his income came from his aesthetics clinics. I get it, so now instead of checking my prostate he's injecting botox into women's faces among a host of other "beautifying" treatments...


Back in the early 2000's I  had to visit a plastic surgeon for a bullet fragment scar on my nose. He did a fantastic job I might add.  Wink  As he was an interesting fella we chatted about his business whereas he told me that he did not do "vanity" surgeries, but only those involving accidents & disease. His reasoning was that he HAD done that before and spent half his time in court with female clients upset and suing him because they did not become Miss Universe.  Rolleyes  He confided in me that easily over 90% of of the people seeking vanity surgeries needed therapy for their self esteem rather than surgery.

As regards women, I have known several when I lived abroad who had had "boob jobs". Almost all were vain, shallow & gold diggers. To make matters even worse their boobs were hard.  Big Grin   Wink

That whole celebrity tie in that the article you provided refers to is responsible for a whole host of people, primarily women but men too, having an unrealistic expectation of what their body should look like and what a plastic surgeon can do. Virtually every picture of a celebrity that you see in the media has been photoshopped usually a lot. The celebrities themselves don't even look like that. If you haven't seen this Dove ad you need to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhCn0jf46U

Theres a whole host of surgical procedures available such as implants like you referred to, to make things bigger and liposuction to make things smaller, plastic surgery for facial "correction" and even plastic surgery procedures on the genetalia in order to "change", "repair" or "enhance" the appearance.

It really is crazy, you should just do the best with what God gave you. Obviously there are instances where plastic surgery is beneficial, injuries, illness, congenital defects and so forth. I'm assuming you received your scar in either a military situation or a hunting accident and you were fortunate first that the fragment wasn't a few inches closer in which would have had a far worse outcome for you and second that you were able to find a decent surgeon who wasn't too busy doing cosmetic stuff to see you.

This parody video is hilarious - this is what happens to guys once they leave school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNgTAWEcNfk

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Are you sure that this review is “official”?


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(12-21-2017, 03:28 PM)drdeemanda Wrote: Are you sure that this review is “official”?


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Yes, we've veered off the path but the thread did start out as one man's "official" review of T+S and Ryan @ Tallow + Steel was involved in the early part of the thread so there is that.Smile

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(12-21-2017, 03:28 PM)drdeemanda Wrote: Are you sure that this review is “official”?
I wondered the same in post #4 on this thread. And here we are. I'll just call it "The Official Unofficial Tallow + Steel Review"... Confused
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