PAA General Thoughts?

Yeah, I never looked into that accusation. Wasn't one that bothered me. The ingredients listed in order of hype was what bothered me. I just could not imagine any of the respected artisans that I enjoy as I got into the hobby, pulling stunts with their ingredients list. In my mind, as an artisan soap maker, your ingredients would be sacred.

Where is the proof, that Erik made up his ingredient list for his soaps ?

If he really did this, I will boycott this brand totally from now on, just like I do with all products from eShave, because of the lady in charge of the company and her ignorance combined with arrogance.

Yeah, I never looked into that accusation. Wasn't one that bothered me. The ingredients listed in order of hype was what bothered me. I just could not imagine any of the respected artisans that I enjoy as I got into the hobby, pulling stunts with their ingredients list. In my mind, as an artisan soap maker, your ingredients would be sacred.

I haven't seen the ingredients on Synergy.

Yeah, I never looked into that accusation. Wasn't one that bothered me. The ingredients listed in order of hype was what bothered me. I just could not imagine any of the respected artisans that I enjoy as I got into the hobby, pulling stunts with their ingredients list. In my mind, as an artisan soap maker, your ingredients would be sacred.

Where is the proof, that Erik made up his ingredient list for his soaps ?

If he really did this, I will boycott this brand totally from now on, just like I do with all products from eShave, because of the lady in charge of the company and her ignorance combined with arrogance.

The issue was discovered and posted on B&B a while back - http://www.badgerandblade.com/vb/showthr...p?t=424933
As the thread progressed, I remember ingredients lists on his website disappearing and then corrected. The explanation given by, I think 'Douglas' at that time (Erik had not yet made public that the Douglas thing was a character. He was still presented as real...), was that he was anti-FDA, or something like that. To me, it just did not pass muster. To me, an honest ingredients list is an obligation to your customers, not just a formality.

Mmmm, cyanide.

http://theoriginalsafetytoo.com/thread/1...ng-scandal

Yeah, I never looked into that accusation. Wasn't one that bothered me. The ingredients listed in order of hype was what bothered me. I just could not imagine any of the respected artisans that I enjoy as I got into the hobby, pulling stunts with their ingredients list. In my mind, as an artisan soap maker, your ingredients would be sacred.

I haven't seen the ingredients on Synergy.

It was corrected, once people got upset about it. The original ingredients before correction were:  
Kokum Butter, Organic Mango Butter, Organic Cocoa Butter, Organic Avocado Oil, Organic Pumpkin Oil, Organic Castor Oil, Coconut Oil, Palm Oil, Organic Neem Oil, Safflower Oil, Glycerine, Purified Water, Sodium & Potassium Hydroxide,Soy bean protein, Chaulmoogra Oil, Aloe Extract, Maca Root, Yellow Dock Root, Essential Oil [Unless Scent Free]

What does any of this matter and why is this constantly argued?

If you don't like it or the owner, then don't buy it. Every time you discuss it you give him MORE advertising. The next new person is going to see a 12 page thread and think ... Hmm, that must be a great product. They are NOT going to read this mess.

If you do like the stuff, then buy it. Why is there so much drama. Just move on?

Mods, don't you think this is out of hand?

You're right, grim. I keep getting pulled back in. Never again!!! Lol

Mmmm, cyanide.

http://theoriginalsafetytoo.com/thread/1...ng-scandal

Lol......

What does any of this matter and why is this constantly argued?

Because what he did is morally wrong and deceptive.

I can't say what I truly think of the guy as I would be instantly banned. I hope every thread with any of his name's or companies mentioned gets shut down.