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(This post was last modified: 04-07-2019, 02:10 AM by celestino.)
(04-07-2019, 12:59 AM)shevek Wrote: My method is to drip some water on the puck, load until you get thick tendrils, then add water until it's creamy. Ready to face lather. This method has worked for me for years. Thin lather would indicate to me not enough soap. Hope you are able to get this soap working because it really does outperform it's price when done right!

This soap takes a bit to load onto the brush as I find it to be a harder croap than most soaps offered, at the moment. I don't believe you are getting enough soap into the brush. Follow the above advice and load for a bit longer to make sure you have adequate soap.

Here is a great video demonstrating the method mentioned above, and with a very large badger knot, to boot: Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHHYN3Do9ns

Best of luck and I hope you can get this soap to work for you as it is one of the best soaps available, in my opinion, even after nine years of trying most other soaps.

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(This post was last modified: 04-07-2019, 03:10 AM by HighSpeed.)
(04-07-2019, 02:04 AM)Marko Wrote: HighSpeed , on the brush issue, I’m finding that stiffer brushes work better with MW for me. My shavemac D01 2 band or the Rooney Victorian seem to work well for me. They pick up a lot of soap due to their stiffness.

Thanks Marko.  That's good to know.  I will use a stiffer brush.
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#23

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(04-07-2019, 02:09 AM)celestino Wrote:
(04-07-2019, 12:59 AM)shevek Wrote: My method is to drip some water on the puck, load until you get thick tendrils, then add water until it's creamy. Ready to face lather. This method has worked for me for years. Thin lather would indicate to me not enough soap. Hope you are able to get this soap working because it really does outperform it's price when done right!

This soap takes a bit to load onto the brush as I find it to be a harder croap than most soaps offered, at the moment. I don't believe you are getting enough soap into the brush. Follow the above advice and load for a bit longer to make sure you have adequate soap.

Here is a great video demonstrating the method mentioned above, and with a very large badger knot, to boot:   Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHHYN3Do9ns

Best of luck and I hope you can get this soap to work for you as it is one of the best soaps available, in my opinion, even after nine years of trying most other soaps.

Thanks very much celestino.  I think this and the video gLet posted are both excellent - clear and on point.  One thing I notice is that both videos stress the use of painting strokes with MW, at least in the early stages of the process.  As primarily a bowl latherer, I might do well to adapt.  I am however such a damn creature of habit. Smile  We shall see.

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HighSpeed , don’t worry too much about the challenges of Mystic Water soap. It took me literally years to figure it out. Not constantly but coming back periodically so it was a big deal for me when I finally cracked the code. I’m not saying that it will take you years, I’m just saying that it’s a challenge but it’ll be worth it.

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(04-07-2019, 03:33 AM)Marko Wrote: HighSpeed , don’t worry too much about the challenges of Mystic Water soap. It took me literally years to figure it out. Not constantly but coming back periodically so it was a big deal for me when I finally cracked the code. I’m not saying that it will take you years, I’m just saying that it’s a challenge but it’ll be worth it.


I guess I am lucky, It didn’t take me that long. Using Cris’ technique and you will have it after the first or second trial.

Sorry guys I just don’t see the fuss in making a MW lather. It’s pretty easy.

If you face lather, Cris’ technique
If you bowl lather, Donald Youngers’ technique.
Merkurmans technique works as well.

Three techniques that all work pretty much quickly.

All give thick cushion, super slick white lava.




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(04-07-2019, 02:09 AM)celestino Wrote:
(04-07-2019, 12:59 AM)shevek Wrote: My method is to drip some water on the puck, load until you get thick tendrils, then add water until it's creamy. Ready to face lather. This method has worked for me for years. Thin lather would indicate to me not enough soap. Hope you are able to get this soap working because it really does outperform it's price when done right!

This soap takes a bit to load onto the brush as I find it to be a harder croap than most soaps offered, at the moment. I don't believe you are getting enough soap into the brush. Follow the above advice and load for a bit longer to make sure you have adequate soap.

Here is a great video demonstrating the method mentioned above, and with a very large badger knot, to boot: Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHHYN3Do9ns

Best of luck and I hope you can get this soap to work for you as it is one of the best soaps available, in my opinion, even after nine years of trying most other soaps.


This is the video that solved the MW puzzle for me. I had neglected MW for years b4 I saw this.

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(04-07-2019, 02:32 AM)HighSpeed Wrote: Thanks very much celestino.  I think this and the video gLet posted are both excellent - clear and on point.  One thing I notice is that both videos stress the use of painting strokes with MW, at least in the early stages of the process.  As primarily a bowl latherer, I might do well to adapt.  I am however such a damn creature of habit. Smile  We shall see.

Here is a video using this soap while bowl lathering.
The thing you have to remember is to load enough product onto your brush, as with most soaps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8BQXk0D1Rg

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(04-07-2019, 02:32 AM)HighSpeed Wrote: As primarily a bowl latherer, I might do well to adapt.

When I bowl-lather with MW (which is as often anymore as I've been face-lathering since last summer), I will use the same loading method (bloom & load for 15-20 sec) and then go to the bowl. Add a little water at a time but you will likely have to do so often. Don't be surprised if you are a 2-4 minutes into the process before the lather switches from the "chalk-like" to "yogurt-like" substance. At least this is my vague memory of when I bowl-lathered MW Smile

Good luck dialing it in...it's really worth the effort as MW does provide a great post-shave

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(04-07-2019, 02:04 AM)Marko Wrote: HighSpeed , on the brush issue, I’m finding that stiffer brushes work better with MW for me. My shavemac D01 2 band or the Rooney Victorian seem to work well for me. They pick up a lot of soap due to their stiffness.
Me too. I've been though 7 pucks of MW and my stiffer scritchy brushes are the best. Not to say synthetics can't lather but because of their springy nature, they can easily incorporate too much air, and also the super fine tips don't pick up as much soap so it takes longer to load.

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#30
Mystic Water is my favorite soap. I always face lather and I always (except when travelling) use 2-band badgers between 26 and 30mm.

Here's my advice.
- Bloom the soap for a few minutes
- Load enough product, (with a damp, not dripping brush) which is more than most other soaps
- Spend some time building the lather, add a few drops of water at a time and work it in properly before adding more. MW is thirsty, but a bit sensitive.
- Be patient. MW (at least for me) takes a Little extra time to lather, but it's well worth it. The slickness and post shave is hard to beat.

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