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(06-22-2021, 05:41 AM)Tester28 Wrote:
(06-21-2021, 07:27 PM)JimmyH Wrote: LOL ... Well the experience with the Ti BB led me to look at my experience with Ti in the past. It occurred to me
that chances are, if I picked up a Ti Wolfman I'd come to the same conclusion.

Having started off with vintage Gillettes, I am used to relatively lighter razors.
I have a limited edition Taiga in Ti headed my way...at 61 gm it is a tad "heavier" than
my wolfman 1.55 Ti...so that will be fun.

However, truth be told, the one razor that is slaying all for me at the moment is the
WR1 0.94  SB mounted on a Darwin...85 gms of uncontested brilliance. I was trying to
think why it performs so well, apart from the gap, which is ideal for my beard growth.
One other thing that stands out is the fantastic blade clamping on this head.

I'm going to shave with my 0.94 WR1 this morning. I just weighed it with the Darwin and it is 85 grams on my scale. However, I'm going to do half the shave with my WRH1 90mm hollow, which weighs in at 90 grams paired with the head, and the other half with the Darwin. 

It is interesting ... to me .... that I found the long solid WRH1 paired with a WR1 0.74 @ 130 grams improved the shave, while paired with the 0.94 was too much of a good thing. Strange alchemy this wet shaving.

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#12

Posting Freak
The lure of titanium and other precious metals... I have a titanium RR Baby Smooth and maybe another RR Ti handle and they're alright.  I think the attraction of titanium is the that word titanium is pretty cool.  From what I can see, all the attributes of titanium that make it useful in many applications aren't really applicable to shaving - usually its the strength to weight ratio (always) that makes Ti the specified material in a given application but nobody needs the strength of titanium in a razor nor is the weight of the other common razor materials really an issue such that the relative lightness of titanium is necessary. I think the same can be said for pretty much all the designer metals used in razor making. Think about the other precious metals, gold, well, its gold isn't it and nothing more needs to be said other than its expensive, very nice and not very durable.  Rhodium?  Another cool sounding word, copper, brass, bronze, stainless steel - all much better than mere pot metal or plated zinc alloy.  Whats up with zinc?  How did it get such a shabby reputation?  Its an excellent metal in many applications and it starts with the letter Z which is generally attractive from a marketing perspective although X seems to do better.  

How many razors do you think you could make out of this gold?

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#13
The one razor for me where Titanium made a significant difference was the BlackBiird. I alway liked the design and the efficiency but it wasn’t till I got the Ti where the shave was very smooth to go along with the great efficiency.

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Williamsburg, KY
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2021, 04:57 PM by Dave in KY.)
(06-22-2021, 04:33 PM)Shavemd Wrote: The one razor for me where Titanium made a significant difference was the BlackBiird. I alway liked the design and the efficiency but it wasn’t till I got the Ti where the shave was very smooth to go along with the great efficiency.

Ditto and exactly what I was thinking while reading the thoughts on Titanium as I don't normally care for lighter razors..........BUT, it does sound cool ! Big Grin

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This post by Dave in KY mentions views and opinions expressed and makes it known that they are "those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of DFS or any other member, agency, organization, employer or company."  Big Grin
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(This post was last modified: 06-23-2021, 01:38 AM by Dragonsbeard.)
(06-22-2021, 04:33 PM)Shavemd Wrote: The one razor for me where Titanium made a significant difference was the BlackBiird. I alway liked the design and the efficiency but it wasn’t till I got the Ti where the shave was very smooth to go along with the great efficiency.

My thoughts exactly regarding the Ti BB vs the SS. I also prefer the Ti WR2’s to the SS, although I don’t mind the SS of my heavier WR1.94 SS

So it depends on the razor for me and right now I’m waiting on a high polished BB Ti to hit the site. I had to send the Ti BB to India and I already miss it.. but still on my honeymoon with the Rocnel Sailor and if that comes out in Ti I’m 100% onboard that one.

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#16
Titanium cycling frames has very useful features and benefits but in razors it is overdoing it as the "beneficial" properties are subjective and have little to nothing to do with "how the razor shaves". For me the weight of a titanium razor (~75 gm) coupled with a 90 mm handle ensures a wonderful balance and maneuverability. Couple that with the intrinsic and (entirely) subjective facial smoothness of the metal yields a very comfortable shave. But, and this is important, the head geometry must "work" to be functional as the RR BabySmooth was too mild to cut effectively, Henson Ti has too much blade feel and the larger gap Wolfies generate some blade feel irrespective of the metal. Now the rare and very limited Paradigm Ti models seem to offer the perfect combination of features in titanium but then again the Paradigms offered in SS are nearly as effective so this brand's performance may be unrelated to the choice of metals but the geometry. It should be interesting to see how the smooth and effective Yates turns out in titanium or how artistic Charcoal Goods becomes in titanium. In the meantime the Timeless and Blackland models have their benefits and the Karve is as elusive as Bigfoot.

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(06-23-2021, 10:17 PM)AJSharp Wrote: Titanium cycling frames has very useful features and benefits but in razors it is overdoing it as the "beneficial" properties are subjective and have little to nothing to do with "how the razor shaves". For me the weight of a titanium razor (~75 gm) coupled with a 90 mm handle ensures a wonderful balance and maneuverability. Couple that with the intrinsic and (entirely) subjective facial smoothness of the metal yields a very comfortable shave. But, and this is important, the head geometry must "work" to be functional as the RR BabySmooth was too mild to cut effectively, Henson Ti has too much blade feel and the larger gap Wolfies generate some blade feel irrespective of the metal. Now the rare and very limited Paradigm Ti models seem to offer the perfect combination of features in titanium but then again the Paradigms offered in SS are nearly as effective so this brand's performance may be unrelated to the choice of metals but the geometry. It should be interesting to see how the smooth and effective Yates turns out in titanium or how artistic Charcoal Goods becomes in titanium. In the meantime the Timeless and Blackland models have their benefits and the Karve is as elusive as Bigfoot.

I'd add the Carbon Shaving Ti to your list of razors with a good combination of balance and maneuverability, although it's lighter than 75 g. It has become my almost-daily razor.

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(06-23-2021, 10:17 PM)AJSharp Wrote: Titanium cycling frames has very useful features and benefits but in razors it is overdoing it as the "beneficial" properties are subjective and have little to nothing to do with "how the razor shaves". For me the weight of a titanium razor (~75 gm) coupled with a 90 mm handle ensures a wonderful balance and maneuverability. Couple that with the intrinsic and (entirely) subjective facial smoothness of the metal yields a very comfortable shave. But, and this is important, the head geometry must "work" to be functional as the RR BabySmooth was too mild to cut effectively, Henson Ti has too much blade feel and the larger gap Wolfies generate some blade feel irrespective of the metal. Now the rare and very limited Paradigm Ti models seem to offer the perfect combination of features in titanium but then again the Paradigms offered in SS are nearly as effective so this brand's performance may be unrelated to the choice of metals but the geometry.  It should be interesting to see how the smooth and effective Yates turns out in titanium or how artistic Charcoal Goods becomes in titanium. In the meantime the Timeless and Blackland models have their benefits and the Karve is as elusive as Bigfoot.

In my younger days I had titanium bicycle frames ... Litespeed Vortex, and Merlin, + a couple of different Moots YBB mountain frames. Very nice rides.

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#19
(06-22-2021, 02:25 PM)JimmyH Wrote:
(06-22-2021, 05:41 AM)Tester28 Wrote:
(06-21-2021, 07:27 PM)JimmyH Wrote: LOL ... Well the experience with the Ti BB led me to look at my experience with Ti in the past. It occurred to me
that chances are, if I picked up a Ti Wolfman I'd come to the same conclusion.

Having started off with vintage Gillettes, I am used to relatively lighter razors.
I have a limited edition Taiga in Ti headed my way...at 61 gm it is a tad "heavier" than
my wolfman 1.55 Ti...so that will be fun.

However, truth be told, the one razor that is slaying all for me at the moment is the
WR1 0.94  SB mounted on a Darwin...85 gms of uncontested brilliance. I was trying to
think why it performs so well, apart from the gap, which is ideal for my beard growth.
One other thing that stands out is the fantastic blade clamping on this head.

I'm going to shave with my 0.94 WR1 this morning. I just weighed it with the Darwin and it is 85 grams on my scale. However, I'm going to do half the shave with my WRH1 90mm hollow, which weighs in at 90 grams paired with the head, and the other half with the Darwin. 

It is interesting ... to me .... that I found the long solid WRH1 paired with a WR1 0.74 @ 130 grams improved the shave, while paired with the 0.94 was too much of a good thing. Strange alchemy this wet shaving.

If you prefer mass with efficiency you might enjoy one of these: 
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(06-25-2021, 03:25 PM)Cino Wrote:
(06-22-2021, 02:25 PM)JimmyH Wrote:
(06-22-2021, 05:41 AM)Tester28 Wrote: Having started off with vintage Gillettes, I am used to relatively lighter razors.
I have a limited edition Taiga in Ti headed my way...at 61 gm it is a tad "heavier" than
my wolfman 1.55 Ti...so that will be fun.

However, truth be told, the one razor that is slaying all for me at the moment is the
WR1 0.94  SB mounted on a Darwin...85 gms of uncontested brilliance. I was trying to
think why it performs so well, apart from the gap, which is ideal for my beard growth.
One other thing that stands out is the fantastic blade clamping on this head.

I'm going to shave with my 0.94 WR1 this morning. I just weighed it with the Darwin and it is 85 grams on my scale. However, I'm going to do half the shave with my WRH1 90mm hollow, which weighs in at 90 grams paired with the head, and the other half with the Darwin. 

It is interesting ... to me .... that I found the long solid WRH1 paired with a WR1 0.74 @ 130 grams improved the shave, while paired with the 0.94 was too much of a good thing. Strange alchemy this wet shaving.

If you prefer mass with efficiency you might enjoy one of these: 
[Image: 43VTZvP.jpg]

If that's the all stainless Bird I have one, and enjoy it immensely. If it's the Ti head on the long SS BB handle I did try it. The head is too light for the SS handle, long or short, IME. My Ti BB has found a new home and I'm pleased with all of the money I'm going to save ... because I'm now sure that I don't need no steenking Ti razors (If you haven't seen the film, 'The Treasure of the Sierra Madre' you won't get the joke)  Smile

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