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Anyone out there try one of Henri et Victoria’s new tallow based triple milled soaps? C&CC is one of my absolute favorite soap scents and the new tripled milled version has me intrigued. For those who have tried it, I’d be curious to hear what you think.

If this has already been discussed in another thread, I apologize. I haven’t come across any reviews of this soap yet. Thanks!
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(This post was last modified: 10-20-2018, 07:49 PM by BPman.)
At $35 for 4 oz. this won't be a "barn burner" by any means. That's high for sure.

https://henrietvictoria.com/product/trip...ving-soap/

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Is it tallow or still vegan based?


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I tried a sample of their Santal scent in the triple milled formula. The consistancy is extremely soft for a triple milled soap, very much a croap (at least this sample). This was unlike any other triple milled soap i have tried. Perhaps it is because it is a sample and not a full puck, but it is not what i expected from a triple milled soap.

Performance was Ok and seemed to be a bit better than their original formula. The scent is clean and refreshing, my GF loves this scent.

Plus Claude is a good guy that makes some pretty classy products. HEV balms are worth checking out as well.

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(10-20-2018, 07:48 PM)BPman Wrote: At $35 for 4 oz. this won't be a "barn burner" by any means. That's high for sure.

https://henrietvictoria.com/product/trip...ving-soap/

It's $35.00 Canadian, $25.00 US.  Even so, I could not find the ingredients list (on their site or at Maggard), and their whole pitch seems oriented towards people new to traditional shaving.  In any case for $25.00, I want to know the ingredients.

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I like it. It's better then there other formula. It is softer then most triple milled soaps but is lasting good for me so far. Great scent too.
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(10-20-2018, 07:48 PM)BPman Wrote: At $35 for 4 oz. this won't be a "barn burner" by any means. That's high for sure.

https://henrietvictoria.com/product/trip...ving-soap/

The price is a definite concern for me, especially when I can get DR Harris much cheaper as well as MWF and other mass market products that are hard pucks and last a long time.

(12-12-2018, 06:31 AM)SHAVEWIZARD420 Wrote: I tried a sample of their Santal scent in the triple milled formula. The consistancy is extremely soft for a triple milled soap, very much a croap (at least this sample). This was unlike any other triple milled soap i have tried. Perhaps it is because it is a sample and not a full puck, but it is not what i expected from a triple milled soap.

Performance was Ok and seemed to be a bit better than their original formula. The scent is clean and refreshing, my GF loves this scent.

Plus Claude is a good guy that makes some pretty classy products. HEV balms are worth checking out as well.

If I am to pay high high money for a triple milled soap, I want it to be rock solid. I mentioned DR Harris earlier, when I use DR Harris multiple times in a row, I can barely scratch the surface of the puck. Thats how it ends up being such a great value for the money even though it is $17 for a puck. If the HEV is soft like you mention, it'd be hard to justify the cost of it because its going to go flying out of the bowl much much faster than a typical triple milled soap.

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(12-13-2018, 01:47 PM)SCShaver Wrote:
(10-20-2018, 07:48 PM)BPman Wrote: At $35 for 4 oz. this won't be a "barn burner" by any means. That's high for sure.

https://henrietvictoria.com/product/trip...ving-soap/

The price is a definite concern for me, especially when I can get DR Harris much cheaper as well as MWF and other mass market products that are hard pucks and last a long time.

(12-12-2018, 06:31 AM)SHAVEWIZARD420 Wrote: I tried a sample of their Santal scent in the triple milled formula. The consistancy is extremely soft for a triple milled soap, very much a croap (at least this sample). This was unlike any other triple milled soap i have tried. Perhaps it is because it is a sample and not a full puck, but it is not what i expected from a triple milled soap.

Performance was Ok and seemed to be a bit better than their original formula. The scent is clean and refreshing, my GF loves this scent.

Plus Claude is a good guy that makes some pretty classy products. HEV balms are worth checking out as well.

If I am to pay high high money for a triple milled soap, I want it to be rock solid.  I mentioned DR Harris earlier, when I use DR Harris multiple times in a row, I can barely scratch the surface of the puck.  Thats how it ends up being such a great value for the money even though it is $17 for a puck.  If the HEV is soft like you mention, it'd be hard to justify the cost of it because its going to go flying out of the bowl much much faster than a typical triple milled soap.

Before reading the thread I just followed the link, and had my suspicions right away. To triple mill a soap you have to grate it, roll it, and press it. Like with a hydraulic press, to squeeze every particle of H2O out of it. Doing this 3 times, and pressing it, makes it solid as a brick. And I dont think I have seen any triple milled soap, bar or puck, sold in a plastic container. (enter BPman to prove me wrong Smile Then if you take a closer look at the top of the soap in the pictures in the link, it looks like a typical hot process soap that has been poured or ladled into the jar. Just like Stirling, SS, B&M etc.

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I am glad to see that HighSpeed clarified that the $35 is Canadian. The U.S. price is $25 however, some of their soaps remain at $13.50. I own four of their soaps I purchased at least 3 years ago and think they are great. They are I believe, Vegan. Now there is a Vegan, Vegan 2.0 and Tripled Milled both in a Vegan as well as a Tallow formula as per their website. As I read it, the ingredients for Vegan and Vegan 2.0 are the following: Potassium Stearate, Potassium Cocoate, Water, Glycerine, Potassium Ricenoalete, Parfum. Those ingredients come directly from their website. They are however, less forth coming on releasing the ingredients in the tripled milled formula. Now on their website they indicate that tripled milled soap comes in Tallow as well as Vegan. I have found after some research that it appears the ingredients for the Tallow soap is: potassium stearate, potassium talloate, potassium cocoate, water, glycerine, potassium ricenoalete, shea butter, lanolin, parfum. Potassium talloate is Tallow; so I assume this would be missing from the Tripled milled Vegan soap.

I am sure most of you know what tripled milled means. Not only does it remove most liquids (water, etc.) but also particulates. The finished product is pressed in a mold which makes a puck. The result is a a puck that is as hard as a rock. But I also read “refined and aged until cured to perfection” I would really like to know is this the typical way of making a triple milled soap?

Because of slip up in conversations with British soap companies. I have determined that most if not all tripled milled soap at least in England are manufactured by independent(s) manufactures. So companies such D.R. Harris, Czech and Speake, Geo. F. Trumper, Mitchels Wool Fat, Edwin Jagger to name a few may and I believe they do use outside manufactures to produce their soap pucks. Why? It is a complicated process and the cost of the machinery is expensive.

Most artisan soaps that I know of are not tripled milled and a poured in the tub. So to you olschoolsteel, I completely agree. I have seen the top of what is called the tippled milled soap in a plastic tub. It does not appear to be a hard puck???? A tripled milled puck is soo hard you could not push your finger into it. Did someone try this with Henri et Victori? In my opinion $25 for 4oz of a good soap is reasonable.

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(12-13-2018, 04:57 PM)olschoolsteel Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 01:47 PM)SCShaver Wrote:
(10-20-2018, 07:48 PM)BPman Wrote: At $35 for 4 oz. this won't be a "barn burner" by any means. That's high for sure.

https://henrietvictoria.com/product/trip...ving-soap/

The price is a definite concern for me, especially when I can get DR Harris much cheaper as well as MWF and other mass market products that are hard pucks and last a long time.

(12-12-2018, 06:31 AM)SHAVEWIZARD420 Wrote: I tried a sample of their Santal scent in the triple milled formula. The consistancy is extremely soft for a triple milled soap, very much a croap (at least this sample). This was unlike any other triple milled soap i have tried. Perhaps it is because it is a sample and not a full puck, but it is not what i expected from a triple milled soap.

Performance was Ok and seemed to be a bit better than their original formula. The scent is clean and refreshing, my GF loves this scent.

Plus Claude is a good guy that makes some pretty classy products. HEV balms are worth checking out as well.

If I am to pay high high money for a triple milled soap, I want it to be rock solid.  I mentioned DR Harris earlier, when I use DR Harris multiple times in a row, I can barely scratch the surface of the puck.  Thats how it ends up being such a great value for the money even though it is $17 for a puck.  If the HEV is soft like you mention, it'd be hard to justify the cost of it because its going to go flying out of the bowl much much faster than a typical triple milled soap.

Before reading the thread I just followed the link, and had my suspicions right away. To triple mill a soap you have to grate it, roll it, and press it. Like with a hydraulic press, to squeeze every particle of H2O out of it. Doing this 3 times, and pressing it, makes it solid as a brick. And I dont think I have seen any triple milled soap, bar or puck, sold in a plastic container. (enter BPman to prove me wrong Smile Then if you take a closer look at the top of the soap in the pictures in the link, it looks like a typical hot process soap that has been poured or ladled into the jar. Just like Stirling, SS, B&M etc.

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I agree, every triple milled soap i have ever seen has been hard as a brick. Plus as you mentioned, the process for triple milling soap is very expensive, which is why i was confused to hear them call this triple milled (since it is quite soft, can easily press into it, like play-dough consistsncy).

Perhaps they mean its been cooked 3 times? It does seem to be concentrated, but not what most people would consider a triple milled soap. This has just been my experience with the sample. Would love to hear what Claude from HEV has to say about this matter. They do make decent products (especially their balms) and dont want this to seem negative, but this soap does feel extremely soft for a 3 mill.

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