#1
This one's a little embarrassing but it is what it is. I've always been a synthetic guy, literally always. I've been wanting a few badger brushes more and more so decided to get a maggards 2 band to test the waters before getting a paladin. A few things worth noting is my face is too sensitive to face lather so I use a bowl. I've also always stuck with synthetic because of the softness to help cut down on irritation from being less scratchy. The 2 band I got is a fan knot which is the first fan knot I've ever owned.
My issue isn't making a lather but getting the brush to release it. I've tried all different amounts of water to change the lathers consistency. I can only paint to get smooth coverage. If I use the tips I just push the lather around instead of adding any. Is there a break in period I need to go through? Is there a different technique for fan knots? Any ideas?
Also the paladins are also 2 band knots I believe. Are they softer than the maggards? I would assume so for the price but am curious. Thanks for any help
#2
I don’t think you are doing anything wrong. I also bowl lather and when I move to my face I work the brush over my face in circular motions. The brush will release lather but not what I want for my shave. Once I’m comfortable that the lather is into my beard I then paint a nice thick layer of lather over my entire face. Sometimes I have to maneuver the brush sideways on my face to squeegee the lather out onto my face. I have to do this with all brushes, badger, boar and synthetic. I hope this helps.

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#3
(01-19-2019, 07:47 PM)MntnMan62 Wrote: I don’t think you are doing anything wrong.  I also bowl lather and when I move to my face I work the brush over my face in circular motions.  The brush will release lather but not what I want for my shave.  Once I’m comfortable that the lather is into my beard I then paint a nice thick layer of lather over my entire face.  Sometimes I have to maneuver the brush sideways on my face to squeegee the lather out onto my face.  I have to do this with all brushes, badger, boar and synthetic.  I hope this helps.

Ya that's pretty much the same. Was just thinking I should be using the tips more than the sides like I need to. But then thought that was because it's a fan knot
#4
There's no break-in period with badgers, aside from the first 1-2 shaves that will tend to open up the knot a little bit compared to its unused shape.

But, more generally, don't be afraid to prefer synthetics. I've tried a few high end badger knots but I still prefer my favorite synthetic brushes over them.

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#5

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Its possible that the brush is a little stiffer than is ideal for you. I bought a ShaveMac brush with a silvertip D01 2 band knot. I call it my pot scrubber. It does what you describe, move the lather around. It also does a great exfoliation. I figured I'd just screwed up buying it, I know, I read the feedback so I should have known but this brush is like the Spanish Inquisition - nobody expects a Spanish Inquisition...or a brush to have this much backbone. The good news is, I've persevered and periodically taken it out and bowl lathered with it. I've used a bowl with some texture in the bottom and the brush is slowly but surely relaxing and softening up a little bit. Its a process but I'm committed to using and enjoying this brush. I think if you stick with it and take the brush out once a week or so eventually it will soften up.

I'd suggest getting another badger brush with a slightly softer knot. I'm a big fan of H.L.Thater brushes. Kent are nice too and I recently acquired a Simpson Persian Jar 2 in best badger and its an excellent brush. The knot is adequate but not so big that it overwhelms the standard soap tub size. It has a nice backbone but nothing like the D01 2 band. Its also not badly priced.

You might want to give boar brushes a shot as well. They're generally reasonably priced and perform very well. They require 10 minutes or so of soaking before use and over time the bristles split at the ends and they break in wonderfully. I'd recommend Semogue or Omega. Even that cheap $10 omega boar that you often find at the local drug store works really well once broken in and pre-soaked.

Good luck

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#6
(01-19-2019, 08:12 PM)Marko Wrote: Its possible that the brush is a little stiffer than is ideal for you.  I bought a ShaveMac brush with a silvertip D01 2 band knot.  I call it my pot scrubber.  It does what you describe, move the lather around. It also does a great exfoliation.  I figured I'd just screwed up buying it, I know, I read the feedback so I should have known but this brush is like the Spanish Inquisition - nobody expects a Spanish Inquisition...or a brush to have this much backbone.  The good news is, I've persevered and periodically taken it out and bowl lathered with it.  I've used a bowl with some texture in the bottom and the brush is slowly but surely relaxing and softening up a little bit.  Its a process but I'm committed to using and enjoying this brush.  I think if you stick with it and take the brush out once a week or so eventually it will soften up.  

I'd suggest getting another badger brush with a slightly softer knot.  I'm a big fan of H.L.Thater brushes.  Kent are nice too and I recently acquired a Simpson Persian Jar 2 in best badger and its an excellent brush.  The knot is adequate but not so big that it overwhelms the standard soap tub size.  It has a nice backbone but nothing like the D01 2 band.  Its also not badly priced.

You might want to give boar brushes a shot as well. They're generally reasonably priced and perform very well.  They require 10 minutes or so of soaking before use and over time the bristles split at the ends and they break in wonderfully.  I'd recommend Semogue or Omega.  Even that cheap $10 omega boar that you often find at the local drug store works really well once broken in and pre-soaked.

Good luck

Thanks, there are a few thaters I really like. I do need as soft as I can, too much scritch gives me irritation. I'm yet to try a silvertip but I know it'll be softer than my 2 band. I'd say my 2 band is right at the edge of what is acceptable and what is too scratchy. I really want a lime paladin but being 2 bands I just don't know if they'll be soft enough for my skin. Thanks for the help.
#7

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Peachtree City, GA
You're a Kent guy try BK4,8 or 12 really only differing in size. Most like 8 but truth told, prefer a smaller brush and still retain a 4 and 2 (4 with stiffer hair).

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#8

Member
Des Moines, IA
You might try squeezing the lather from the brush and using your fingers to put it on your face, then painting it around with the brush. I do this with a couple brushes I have that don't release lather as readily as I prefer.

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#9
(01-19-2019, 08:47 PM)DanLaw Wrote: You're a Kent guy  try BK4,8 or 12 really only differing in size.  Most like 8 but truth told, prefer a smaller brush and still retain a 4 and 2 (4 with stiffer hair).

Thanks, you're always so helpful
#10

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(01-19-2019, 08:47 PM)DanLaw Wrote: You're a Kent guy  try BK4,8 or 12 really only differing in size.  Most like 8 but truth told, prefer a smaller brush and still retain a 4 and 2 (4 with stiffer hair).

The Kent brushes really are beautiful. I have the BLK 8 and a 12. I got the 12 for half price when Men Essentials shut down a year or so ago. Killer deal but it really is a bit bigger than you need.

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