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Just recently I noticed that I have a new irritation . I was near  some poor people. One of them spoke bad English. I forget what was said. But it was something like 'I gived him  some money'. That was new, bad English to me. Didn't we learn how to speak good English in grade school? This is my irritation for today.
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#52

Posting Freak
Did this thread ever go off track. If you read the OP, it was never stated that men with facial hair and/or beards were rude or slovenly. Read it. I think he was saying grow a beard or don't grow a beard but he doesn't like the unkempt couple of days I'm too lazy/cool/sexy to shave look. Now, to be fair, you may have caught the guy at the very start of his growing a beard phase which obviously has to start somewhere, but nowhere was it stated that beards were in any way bad. Sorry BadDad but classic straw man fallacy.

And for what its worth, from the pictures I've seen, I think your beard is magnificent.
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3 out of 4 High school students cannot read a analog clock and I wont mention cursive writing. I've grown beards and burned all photos. 'clothes make the man ' and ' you only get one chance at a first impression.' I am not that judgemental. But my great grandmother said she could size up a man's character by his shoes and watch. I was up in NORCAL on an archaeological dig during the REDWOOD SUMMER protests. We arrived and immediately visited the site complex. I was still in a full suit from the flight. Private security goons for Pacific Lumber had detained an EARTH FIRST! activist, saw me and assumed I was a 'suit.' Well, I was and took custody of the deadhead and told him to walk away quickly with me. 'Aren't you going to cuff me and read my Miranda?Why?' Well who are you? Oh, I was the tall guy near Ed Abbey at the ceremonial cracking of the Glen Canyon Dam in the video.
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(03-16-2017, 04:23 AM)KAV Wrote: 3 out of 4 High school students cannot read a analog clock and I wont mention cursive writing.

Serious questions: Is it even necessary to write in cursive anymore? What good is it in the 21st century? What is the last thing you wrote in great length that was in cursive that was important other than a note or card?

I only ask because when I am out in the real world I don't see cursive anywhere (and never did even when people wrote in cursive because they didn't have computers/technology). This message board? Print. Stand in the middle of a mall and do a 360. Print. Newspaper/magazine? Print. I've never understood the cursive argument. Other than writing your signature it is a pretty outdated and useless skill.

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Cursive handwriting has been demonstrated as one of those early skills that help develop a young mind's hardwiring. It was only, and still not universal, in the last 100 odd years
internal combustion transport supplanted horses and other livestock as mankind's transport and battleweapon. Mechanical watches are looked upon as mere jewelry or affectation. Yet when the Apollo Mission's computers malfunctioned a critical burn time was accomplished with a Chronometer on astronaut's wrist. There are caves with vivid paintings of a lost world, illuminated texts and the journals of Lewis and Clark. I still have my girl's ephemeral preserved in a chinese camphor chest. It is not that I dislike or wholly distrust the digital phenomenon. But the mortality of non archived websites, hacking, solar flares and this whole disconnect from the real world via texting,sexting, tweeting can be swept away like a fly focused on food. I always think of Obi Won giving Luke the light saber; a weapon from a more elegant age. I have a russian Shaska, and get it.

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#56
I thought of seeing some of the complaints made here if I could travel back in time to 'Gone with the Wind' era.

Oh wait, may be those folks have travelled forward. I have to find Captain Butler's twitter handle now and figure out what sort of 'damns' he is giving these days.


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My mother's cousin Kay married a guy named Speckles; big name in sugar and something of a pervert. She divorced him and married this german american with false teeth named Clark. I vaguely remember a big smile and 'uncle Clark' holding me as a toddler while my grandfather built chicken coops on his property. Milkman makes his early delivery and dropped a bottle, uttering that famous expletive. Uncle Clark yelled 'HEY! not in front of the kids!'
Don Ameche later had to drop the F BOMB in trading places. He was a very devout catholic and universally respected for almost courtly manners. He asked everyone present on the local to be very quiet, as he had to say something terrible. Scene finished, he then went around apologizing to everyone present.
Now ZaZa; there was a hungarian sewer.
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(03-16-2017, 05:11 AM)iamsms Wrote: I thought of seeing some of the complaints made here if I could travel back in time to 'Gone with the Wind' era.

Oh wait, may be those folks have travelled forward. I have to find Captain Butler's twitter handle now and figure out what sort of 'damns' he is giving these days.


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Ahhhhhhhhhh, the days of yore.
#59
"I wish I had a pencil-thin mustache . . ."
"What's good for me ain't necessarily good for the weak-minded." - Augustus McRae
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(03-16-2017, 12:11 AM)EFDan Wrote: I guess I'm an odd one then, because most of mine do.

Zippered pants go with dress clothes and jeans. Jeans are still in fashion. dress clothes are not. First it was Casual Friday. Now is Casual every day. And tomorrow no one goes to work because they all telecommute. No one wears a watch except as jewelry. Clocks are everywhere and everyone has a phone. Dress shoes have been replaced with Rockports (something with a rubber sole, not leather), sneakers, moccasins, etc.

This discussion is like its 1955. Times have changed. And beards? The grubby look is in. Its everywhere. Just watch any TV show. Its a fashion statement. https://www.thestreet.com/story/13238672...iness.html


Beards are back in vogue, and that trend plus declining shaving by women are putting a big dent in Procter & Gamble's  (PG) lucrative grooming business.  

Look https://www.jeanlouisdavid.us/article/me...rd_a3138/1

Beards are most certainly back. With no need to leave it to grow for months at a time, the 3-day beard also does the trick.

This is real life. Just look around. Its fashion.

(03-16-2017, 04:23 AM)KAV Wrote: 3 out of 4 High school students cannot read a analog clock

 Who cares?  I can't remember how to program a VCR now nor would I want to. Time moves on. Out with the old, in with the new. Knowing how to read an analog clock is meaningless. Even gauges in cars are now digital. We live in a digital world. I think maybe, with respect,  you need to just look around.

Life has moved on.

(03-16-2017, 04:23 AM)KAV Wrote: and I wont mention cursive writing.

Again, sorry, but who cares? People don't even "write" their own signature anymore, its partly printed.



(03-16-2017, 04:23 AM)KAV Wrote:  But my great grandmother said she could size up a man's character by his shoes and watch.


Then  your great grandmother would not survive - with respect - in 2017.

(03-16-2017, 05:08 AM)KAV Wrote: Cursive handwriting has been demonstrated as one of those early skills that help develop a young mind's hardwiring. It was only, and still not universal, in the last 100 odd years internal combustion transport supplanted horses and other livestock as  mankind's transport and battleweapon. Mechanical watches are looked upon as mere jewelry or affectation. Yet when the Apollo Mission's computers  malfunctioned a critical burn time was accomplished with a Chronometer on astronaut's wrist. There are caves with vivid paintings of a lost world, illuminated texts and the journals of Lewis and Clark. I still have my girl's ephemeral preserved in a chinese camphor chest. It is not that I dislike or wholly distrust the digital phenomenon. But the mortality of non archived websites, hacking, solar flares and this whole disconnect from the real world via texting,sexting, tweeting can be swept away like a  fly focused on food. I always think of Obi Won giving Luke the light saber; a weapon from a more elegant age. I have a russian Shaska, and get it.

You just changed the subject to "will digital data" survive time. And yes, it most surely will. While its true that data has moved from tape to CDs to DVDs to thumb drives, etc. Of course scientists know this is an issue. What is mankind to do, build huge Pyramids in rock to survive? Sorry, time moves on. See http://www.newsweek.com/2015/07/03/stori...45557.html


Go look at some old photos. Notice they are fading away. In time, there will be no data on those analog photos.

You can read the article  yourself but of course scientists are working on preserving digital data. Don't worry about. There are a lot of smart people out there working on this.

I think perhaps, with respect, your living a bit in the past and need to move on.  No one cares what shoes you wear, if your pants have zippers, or if you shaved this morning. It might be nostalgic but so aren't Ice Cream Trucks, the milkman, and analog TV.


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