#111

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(03-28-2017, 09:21 PM)hawns Wrote:
(03-18-2017, 05:43 PM)Marko Wrote: I'm sure they look good on you, they're just not for me.  I prefer a conservative style of dress that, in my opinion, looks good.  I recently saw a tv ad where a fellow is mocking his friend because he's wearing pleated front khakis (chinos in US), the gist is that pleated front is old man and waaay out of style so friends don't let friends wear them.  I happen to like pleated front pants whether in suits, dress pants or casual (not jeans) Heck, Bogart wore them and that man was cool.  David Bowie wore pleated front pants and that man was cool.  I wear pleated front pants and while I'm not as cool as Bowie or Bogart, I think they're pretty darn cool and they're more comfortable to boot.  Younger/other men will have different role models and they will dress in a style that suits them and if we were to meet, we'd smile, shake hands and say hello while both thinking "I wouldn't be caught dead wearing that".  Smile

Don't look now, Mark, but you are in luck!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ba...urn-905225
http://www.gq.com/story/the-right-way-to...-this-fall

I'll disregard wyze0ne 's post and write it off to Jeff just needing a Snickers bar Big Grin .

That said, hawns I've been around long enough to know that if you stick to a style long enough (is forever long enough?) you will go in and out of fashion several times and those articles provide evidence of that fact. Thanks for posting them, I'm pulling out the double pleats right now.

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#112

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San Diego, Cal., USA
You mean pleats were out of fashion?!  When?!!! Confused

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#113

Posting Freak
(03-28-2017, 10:56 PM)Freddy Wrote: You mean pleats were out of fashion?!  When?!!! Confused

Apparently - when I say I'm pulling them out I don't have to reach very far because I never stopped wearing them. We all have our own mental image of what we consider stylish and comfortable and I know that if I ever stray from that I just don't feel comfortable. I guess its irrelevant if the whole world thinks I look out of style as long as I feel comfortable and true to my own sense of style. I spent my career as an in-house corporate lawyer in the energy sector. Its a conservative business and I'm a conservative dresser. It was important that I convey a certain image, professional, reserved and prosperous (of course). When I was in my 30s my suit guy at the shop I dealt with was in his 60s. He knew I wasn't interested in the latest passing fashion trends, 3 button jackets, those awful skinny suits....he also knew that my pants had to be pleated and cuffed. I can recall meeting with some senior people from ExxonMobil and this fellow presented in an immaculately tailored suit, his shirt was heavily starched, french cuffs/cufflinks and it was so white it glowed blue. Talk about old school, but it did give the desired power impression, i.e., if I can stand this heavily starched collar, I can certainly outlast you in a negotiation.

I'll grant you that not every man looks good in pleated pants so by all means, dress in the manner that you feel good in and that presents you in what you feel to be the best light.

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#114

Member
South Saint Louis, MO
In my opinion, fashion is all about making you feel good and confident. Just like being well groomed and smelling well.

It's just like Deion Sanders said, "You look good, you feel good. You feel good, you play good. You play good, they pay good."

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#115

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(03-29-2017, 03:36 PM)hawns Wrote: In my opinion, fashion is all about making you feel good and confident. Just like being well groomed and smelling well.

It's just like Deion Sanders said, "You look good, you feel good. You feel good, you play good. You play good, they pay good."

Too true...and when they pay good you can afford to look good and then you feel good and on it goes. Smile

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#116
(03-15-2017, 02:04 PM)BadDad Wrote:
(03-15-2017, 05:48 AM)Tbone Wrote: I always thought the unshaven, stubbly look was slovenly rather than cool. Not everyone is going to be Dapper Dan, but there is a lot to be said for basic hygiene and grooming.
It takes a lot of effort to maintain a beard no matter the size. The "stubble look" is one of the more high maintenance looks a man can achieve. It also happens to be extremely highly rated as attractive by women.
Not by most of the women I know. For them it is clean shaven, beard or adios. All it takes to have the stubble look is to shave only once or twice a week.

Quote:I guess I just don't understand why it is assumed that a man who doesn't shave his face is slovenly, unkempt, unhygienic, and rude.
Unhygenic and rude? Those weren't my words. I simply said that I thought the stubble look was slovenly. That is simply my opinion, to which I am entitled. If a guy isn't immaculately dressed in an Armani suit and clean shaven, that hardly makes him negative in the slightest, and I never claimed otherwise.

Quote:In fact, the only thing that can be assumed about a man that goes out unshaven is that he did not shave that day. Every other assumption is unsupported assumption about a man you've never met and haven't taken the time to know.
Care to show my where I have judged someone based on their looks? The look itself, yes, but the world is not a fashion show and a man does not have to be a dandy in order to be of sound mind and good character. Again, I never claimed otherwise.
#117
Flusser's DRESSING THE MAN explains pleats expand when sitting and are more comfortable standing and sitting. In WW2 a very silly ration board decided pleats, long rise trousers and cuffed hems wasted material- which they did not and went out of style with a generation who didn't know the difference.


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